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Is it the best long-term move? Probably not, but by trading him, you're basically forfeiting your chance of re-signing an all-time player. Baseball players usually don't return once they leave a place.

Apparently the offers were underwhelming but that could just be PR spin.
 
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FLYguy3911 said:
Is it the best long-term move? Probably not, but by trading him, you're basically forfeiting your chance of re-signing an all-time player. Baseball players usually don't return once they leave a place.

Apparently the offers were underwhelming but that could just be PR spin.
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I will never complain about selling and rebuilding. This is a different situation. In a salary capless sport you have to do all you can to keep a player like this, and literally their only bargaining chip is the idea of competing
 
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I don’t blame them necessarily for this choice but I do blame them for letting it get to this point to where these choices are on the table. They’ve utterly wasted him & Trout (the latter even longer) for so long now. You’ve got two guys doing stuff that’s like in the 1% percentile or less of the game all time & you can’t build a winning team around these guys. That’s embarrassing.

Hopefully for Ohtani’s sake he doesn’t put the type of trust in the organization that Trout did. He’s gonna get his money wherever he goes.
 
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FLYguy3911 said:
Is it the best long-term move? Probably not, but by trading him, you're basically forfeiting your chance of re-signing an all-time player. Baseball players usually don't return once they leave a place.

Apparently the offers were underwhelming but that could just be PR spin.
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Hasn't he basically said he's gone? Barely making the playoffs probably isn't going to convince him to stay. Seems like they'd need a miracle from their supporting players or Ohtani needs to morph into both Clemens and Bonds for the remainder of the season/playoffs. I'm assuming that Trout might not hit for much power again until next season because of his hamate injury
 
LegionOfDoom91 said:
I don’t blame them necessarily for this choice but I do blame them for letting it get to this point to where these choices are on the table. They’ve utterly wasted him & Trout (the latter even longer) for so long now. You’ve got two guys doing stuff that’s like in the 1% percentile or less of the game all time & you can’t build a winning team around these guys. That’s embarrassing.

Hopefully for Ohtani’s sake he doesn’t put the type of trust in the organization that Trout did. He’s gonna get his money wherever he goes.
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maybe I am just bitter but when I think of Trout trusting LAA, my gut tells me he trusted them to never be good and hed have 0 pressure on him.

Sorry - I just hate when athletes claim they are the biggest fan of the city they are from but when they have an opportunity to play here he choose to stay out west.

I swear im not salty....

Ok I am.
 
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TheWolfOfBroadStreet said:
maybe I am just bitter but when I think of Trout trusting LAA, my gut tells me he trusted them to never be good and hed have 0 pressure on him.

Sorry - I just hate when athletes claim they are the biggest fan of the city they are from but when they have an opportunity to play here he choose to stay out west.

I swear im not salty....

Ok I am.
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When Mike Trout signed his massive contract it was 12 years/$426.5m (the biggest in baseball history) and it was before the 2019 season.

The Phillies had the trashier recent history.

2018: 80-82
2017: 80-82
2016: 74-88
2015: 85-77
2014: 98-64 (lost ALDS)

vs Phillies
2018: 80-82
2017: 66-96
2016: 71-91
2015: 63-99
2014: 73-89

They signed Harper to his massive contract a few weeks before Trout signed his extension with the Angels. Although being a lifetime Phillies, what in their history would have you realistically think "Hey... The Phillies just gave one of the biggest contracts in MLB history to Bryce Harper. They are definitely going to GIVE OUT AN EVEN BIGGER CONTRACT if I just wait another couple years until I become a FA"

Trout got his financial security with a massive contract and maybe he could have gotten even more on the open market had he stayed healthy. Turns out he didn't stay healthy so he def made the right financial choice in going for that security early.
 
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Hasn't he basically said he's gone? Barely making the playoffs probably isn't going to convince him to stay. Seems like they'd need a miracle from their supporting players or Ohtani needs to morph into both Clemens and Bonds for the remainder of the season/playoffs. I'm assuming that Trout might not hit for much power again until next season because of his hamate injury
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I think he's gone to NY or the other LA, but I don't know what he's thinking. Apparently he didn't want to get traded this year.

To me, this is about not letting him see the grass on the other side. Maybe they go on a fluke run and that convinces him to stay, but even if it's a 10% chance that he re-signs, it's probably a better bet than the prospects he'd return. MLB teams don't pay a lot for rentals. If they wanted their Soto haul, last year was the year to trade him.
 
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Stop no...

Cramps and will be fine and probably play tomorrow says Sam Blum of the athletic
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