Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: Red October (2024 Edition)

LegionOfDoom91

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Alvarado was good down the stretch so the lack of faith is baffling. Thomson is bungling the bullpen just like last year. He's gotta go.

He’s been up & down all year. He probably had an opportunity to stake a claim tonight with everybody struggling in a lower pressure spot but he did what the rest of them have done with a poor outing.
 
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DancingPanther

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I'm so sick of these f***ing teams wasting every good thing I watch. The Flyers wasted Giroux. The Sixers are wasting Embiid. The Phillies are wasting Harper and Wheeler. The Eagles wasted TO and they're wasting Brown. At least they didn't waste Kelce
 

Rich Nixon

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It's going to be a tough year down there next year. No honeymoon anymore. It's time for some of these guys to know what it feels like when the city is angry at them. The Flyers and Sixers both dealt with it. The energy will be down, and when they slump they will be relentless on them. Trea in particular, he might get run-out-of-town heat.

If they lose tomorrow, yeah, Trea will probably get it in the offseason...but it's the even bigger guy that I'd be worried about. A thought I've had for a while:

When Harper signed with the Phillies, my first thought was that 13 years is a dauntingly long time for a gloryboy to survive in Philly. Don't get me wrong, unbelievable player who has/will have big moments. But he knows he's in a sports media environment that chewed up and chased out McNabb, Iverson, and Lindros all in a decade or less.

And I think he actually views that as part of the challenge he signed up to conquer, hence the literal pandering...he thinks that's the way you keep it at bay, but probably doesn't realize it'll make things much worse when they turn on you. It doesn't even have to make sense or be your fault. Mismanagement, poor talent around you...doesn't matter. It's a city that eats its stars. The only people who can thrive here are low-expectations randos or absolute feral dogs.

I think if Harper and the rest of the bunch don't pop off big tomorrow, he might start to learn that you can't outrun the slow drumbeat of rage that defines Philly as a sports town.
 

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If they lose tomorrow, yeah, Trea will probably get it in the offseason...but it's the even bigger guy that I'd be worried about. A thought I've had for a while:

When Harper signed with the Phillies, my first thought was that 13 years is a dauntingly long time for a gloryboy to survive in Philly. Don't get me wrong, unbelievable player who has/will have big moments. But he knows he's in a sports media environment that chewed up and chased out McNabb, Iverson, and Lindros all in a decade or less.

And I think he actually views that as part of the challenge he signed up to conquer, hence the literal pandering...he thinks that's the way you keep it at bay, but probably doesn't realize it'll make things much worse when they turn on you. It doesn't even have to make sense or be your fault. Mismanagement, poor talent around you...doesn't matter. It's a city that eats its stars. The only people who can thrive here are low-expectations randos or absolute feral dogs.

I think if Harper and the rest of the bunch don't pop off big tomorrow, he might start to learn that you can't outrun the slow drumbeat of rage that defines Philly as a sports town.
The Phillies are kinda a soccer mom and family type of fanbase that fair weathers a lot. It might not be the worst thing for them to feel some friction instead of being coddled by everyone
 

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If they lose tomorrow, yeah, Trea will probably get it in the offseason...but it's the even bigger guy that I'd be worried about. A thought I've had for a while:

When Harper signed with the Phillies, my first thought was that 13 years is a dauntingly long time for a gloryboy to survive in Philly. Don't get me wrong, unbelievable player who has/will have big moments. But he knows he's in a sports media environment that chewed up and chased out McNabb, Iverson, and Lindros all in a decade or less.

And I think he actually views that as part of the challenge he signed up to conquer, hence the literal pandering...he thinks that's the way you keep it at bay, but probably doesn't realize it'll make things much worse when they turn on you. It doesn't even have to make sense or be your fault. Mismanagement, poor talent around you...doesn't matter. It's a city that eats its stars. The only people who can thrive here are low-expectations randos or absolute feral dogs.

I think if Harper and the rest of the bunch don't pop off big tomorrow, he might start to learn that you can't outrun the slow drumbeat of rage that defines Philly as a sports town.
Mike Schmidt said something about there being nothing like winning and then having to read about it in the morning.

Harper's bigger problem I think is that he's going to break down. He's been getting hurt annually. He's hurt right now. He's going to hit a wall and go off a cliff once he loses his bat speed if he keeps having problems with his arms.
 
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Magua

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I'm so sick of these f***ing teams wasting every good thing I watch. The Flyers wasted Giroux. The Sixers are wasting Embiid. The Phillies are wasting Harper and Wheeler.

I don't think the Phillies treated the deadline with enough seriousness; they miscalculated their holes at the plate. I do think people underestimate how hard it is to make a World Series, and I think people underestimate that almost buying a win with this little homegrown top talent is an exception. It's very hard to even make the postseason. "Wasted" isn't the word I'd use when they've spent as they have. They should've had back to back WS appearances, if not for that epic home choke job. It's still the same flawed team that made that run 2 years ago -- the coin just doesn't always land heads. The window isn't closed, although it feels like we're down to 1-2 years. The Braves surely can't flame out and get injured every year.

The Sixers have everything they need -- it's on them in this short window. The Flyers suck all the ass. This is known.
 
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scumpup

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I think the FS1 commentators are casting hexes on the Phillies. What's up with all those balls barely not making the fence? I think it's a conspiracy.
 

Gregor Samsa

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It would be typical if the Phillies have total command of the game tomorrow and win easily then lose game 5 1-0 with a pitiful 2 hits

It’s hard not to see the writing on the wall but baseball playoffs are such a roller coaster. Either way it will almost be an era defining game
 

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