jacks*
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Trading Patches for Simmonds would be a huge mistake on the Habs part.That i know.
Proposal: Philadelphia--Montreal
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Trading Patches for Simmonds would be a huge mistake on the Habs part.That i know.
I dont think Flyers would do it. I post a similar proposal earlier today and all Flyers fans refuse
But yes Montreal should do that. Its not even a head scratcher. Very good trade for the Habs
Actually my offer was even better, I was even willing to give them our 2017 first pick to get Simmonds.
We desesperatly need help in our top 6. Giving picks and prospects away wouldnt make me lose sleep at night
Appleyard
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Evander Kane better than Wayne Simmonds? In what dimension?
Simmonds has had basically 5x 50 point seasons in a row now, hovers right around 30 goals per 82 game pace and also outpaced Kane in each of the last 4 seasons.
2012-13:
Simmonds: 58pt pace
Kane: 56pt pace
2013-14:
Simmonds: 60pt pace
Kane: 53pt pace
2014-15:
Simmonds: 55pt pace
Kane: 49pt pace
2015-16:
Simmonds: 61pt pace
Kane: 44pt pace
Also, people talk about Simmer 'feasting on the PP' but when you compare their 5v5 P/60 since the start of 2012-13:
Simmonds: 1.69
Kane: 1.49
And that is without bringing the fact Simmonds is a stand up guy who is the epitome of professional off ice, and is well loved by his team-mates and a locker-room leader to, well... Evander Kane.
Maybe it would be. But to compare my proposal to a Price/ Clarkson its just plain stupid. I like to argue and exchange opinions. I dont think I have the absolute truth.
But to come and here to say such idiotic stuff, I mean whats the point. Tell me you are against it but with well written opinion and arguments.
jacks*
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No a Habs fan.
The offer was actually made by Hockeypete49 a Flyer fan.
He said he had no interest in trading Simmond but this is what it would take for him.
I just changed the 2nd to DD.
Tripod
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It's bad for Philly. It gives us a depth player(who I do like), a top 9 player who might be top 6 so easy, a RHD who would be 5th on our D prospect depth chart....and that's without including a Ghost and Gudas who just re-signed. Oh, and who had concussion issues and an awful year this year. Then you added a cap dump. Thanks
I would not trade Simmonds for that deal, let alone adding Hagg.
I only move Simmonds if it's an overpay of GOOD players where Philly loses the deal short term, but win the deal long term. Other teams would easily beat this offer if we made a Simminds available.
No, he is not a Flyers fan
MaxP>Simmonds....agreed. But there are Flyers fans who would rather Simmonds and his play style rather than MaxP.
jacks*
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Not being interested is understandable.
I was just replying to a Flyer fan who made the proposal.
Tripod
I hate this team
Thank you Appleyard as I missed that comment back to me. Glad to have you back posting!
Im a Habs fan, and because of his style and the way he plays. I would prefer to have Simmonds then Max Pac in my team. But seems like im pretty alone in my camp
Tripod
I hate this team
Oh I know you are...was referring to Jacks.
Side note: what happened to McCarron this year...anyone watch him and know?
First 21 games....20 points.
Next 37 games...18 points.
Tripod
I hate this team
Not sure where you're getting these stats from ?
McCarron played 20 games at NHL level. Didn't get a lot of points (1 g, 1 a) but did fairly well in my opinion, and didn't look out of place most nights (he's still young). His skatting his still sub-par, but he showed higher hockey IQ than I thought, and really brought something the Habs needed in the physical aspect of the game.
Some are talking about untapped offensive potential...I still don't quite see it. I don't think he'll ever be a top-6, at least not at center. He might have a chance as a winger, but that's a big might until proved otherwise for me.
Still, he sure can become a true asset as a third line forward in my opinion.
EDIT: Oh...I get where you're getting these stats from now, nevermind.
Can't say honestly, don't watch the Ice Caps enough to help you on that.
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Philly doesn't want/need DD.
Habs just drafted Sergachev to be Markov's replacement, we're not trading him.
Philly doesn't need Sergachev, they already have Provorov, who brings a very similar skill-set to the table. Along with Ghost, Sanheim, and Hagg, and Philly's top-4 is set for the next decade.
Philly declines.
Montreal counters with Juulsen instead of Sergachev.
Philly declines again.
Both GMs say good talk and hang up.
Habs just drafted Sergachev to be Markov's replacement, we're not trading him.
Philly doesn't need Sergachev, they already have Provorov, who brings a very similar skill-set to the table. Along with Ghost, Sanheim, and Hagg, and Philly's top-4 is set for the next decade.
Philly declines.
Montreal counters with Juulsen instead of Sergachev.
Philly declines again.
Both GMs say good talk and hang up.
CanadienShark
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No interest whatsoever from my perspective. And Philly is literally the LAST team that would need Sergachev.
Yeah I realised they had no need for Serg. I propose to replace him by McCarron in the trade
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And after pausing and reflecting the obvious is still clear. Pacioretty is easily better than Simmonds.
Yes I know you already said that. But Im happy you did some thinking before trowing stones at me
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I think the last hour has shown Patches for Simmonds isnt the craziest 1 for 1 deal that could happen.
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