OT: Philadelphia Eagles Regular Season: CB Try Outs Are Still On Wednesday

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achdumeingute

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Today is one of those days that Im glad I dont live in the area. Still thinking 8-8 for this team. Their backend is pretty favorable. I think they split the next two games.
I believe we will beat both buf and Chi in somewhat close games..both their defenses are awesome....but their offenses are a challenge.

After that, the path to 10-6 is there.

I'm rooting for 3-13 now though.
 
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I have my Desean replacement picked out, but he won't be in this upcoming draft.

Hamler? He could be as he’s eligible. I don’t think he goes round 1 regardless because the lack of size so I don’t think there’s an opportunity for him to come back & get into round 1 for 2021.

But it is a deep WR class this year & Penn State should return a playoff caliber roster in 2020 with a more experienced QB at that point.
 

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yep. He's gone. with alshon as the source he's gone too. WR a huge need again...
I haven't followed the new story or the one last year, because I just don't care. However, you can't have a snake on the team. If it's true, cut him and deal with the cap ramifications. A trade would be ideal but probably isn't realistic.
 
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I haven't followed the new story or the one last year, because I just don't care. However, you can't have a snake on the team. If it's true, cut him and deal with the cap ramifications. A trade would be ideal but probably isn't realistic.
egads. Dead cap is 20m this, and 26 next. Pretty much insures he won't be cut.
 
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It seemed incredibly clear that it was Alshon even when he was asked about it last week. It took him three times of being asked to say, "Nah," on the third response. Even a decent liar would have outright said that wasn't them on the first time being asked.

Unfortunately, the NFL's salary cap distribution for trades makes no sense, so there's nothing you can do about a player like that unless you want to eat a ton of dead cap space. That's another subject for another day but it makes no sense to me that you can't clear the cap by trading players to a team who then becomes responsible for taking on that contract. To be fair, I'm sure it's strictly to try to prevent teams from controlling a player's destiny after signing him to a contract and shipping him elsewhere, but in scenarios like this where neither party is happy (allegedly) it makes no sense that there's no way out if somebody else is willing to pay the man.
 

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Regarding that Agholor deep ball, I was obviously asleep but looking at the replay it just further illustrates the point that he's not a natural WR. The IQ/awareness, depth perception, and hand eye coordination wasn't there on that play, and it hasn't been there his entire NFL career.
 

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I have my Desean replacement picked out, but he won't be in this upcoming draft.
well just looking at it. I didn't realize djax signed a 3 year deal with us. He's for sure here next year. I'd shut him down this year, get surgery and heal up. We have time for "your target".

Saw on the internet, Albert Wilson as a target. Seems like a great fit as an audition for this year. If he helps...he can fill agholors role next year. If not...cut..with no downside.

I'm fine trading some day 2 picks for comp pick targets.
 

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Regarding that Agholor deep ball, I was obviously asleep but looking at the replay it just further illustrates the point that he's not a natural WR. The IQ/awareness, depth perception, and hand eye coordination wasn't there on that play, and it hasn't been there his entire NFL career.

I just saw that, too. Really a shocking "effort" to catch a ball.
 

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Is it his goal to be cut and then immediately be on the shortest leash possible for the rest of his career or what
With his recent restructuring of his contract, I don’t think he will be cut anytime soon. Although I believe he only had guaranteed money next year and that’s it. Not sure if the cap websites have the correct amounts current for dead cap space.

even if you google the stories about his restructure, still unknown. If he’s cut after next year, his last guaranteed year, wouldn’t the signing bonus be the only remaining dead cap?
 
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Now Jenkins on the radio saying that he isn’t sure what Lane Johnson was getting at when he made the comments about late to practice and meetings.

This team better get its shot together or the season will be over before they know it.
 

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Now Jenkins on the radio saying that he isn’t sure what Lane Johnson was getting at when he made the comments about late to practice and meetings.

This team better get its shot together or the season will be over before they know it.
What comments?
 

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Reminds me of the John Stevens days: System? Or players?
 

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This team is built horribly, I mean Wentz has been over rated by us,he's a good QB but certainly not elite, I'm still mad we gave up all of those picks for him, we have no corners, literally none that could be a 4th on another team, Gerry is trash and they insist on keeping him as a linebacker, we keep all of these injury prone players and expect them to be healthy, we employ and dumbass for a definsive coordinator, he's ALWAYS gave up way to many yards through the air, and Mike groh was a joke even when he was with fisher, I actually dislike this team
 
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Seems like there are a lot of questions about what's going on, so I've given a brief overview below:

1. Alshon Jeffery / Josina Anderson / Howard Eskin saga
Last week, ESPN reporter Josina Anderson reported on two separate occasions that an anonymous Eagles player told her the following things:
- Regarding Jalen Ramsey: "#Eagles player to me on Jalen Ramsey going to the #Rams: "We dropped the ball. I don't even want to talk about that (!@#^). Everybody knew what it was going to take to get him. I could've told you that.""

- Regarding the Eagles Offense: "The Eagles source also talked to me about how they feel like that offense is functioning. One of the things that they said is, “We need to make bleep simpler. Sometimes we need to just handle what is manageable.” They said, “Even Peyton Manning knew when to check it down.” Carson Wentz right now is 38% on passes that travel 15 air yards, has three interceptions on passes like that, which is tied for most in the league. He also has 148 passes on those that are ten yards or fewer. He has nine touchdowns and zero interceptions on passes like that. So, I do think it’s an apt point."​

So, what does this have to do with Alshon if it's an anonymous source? There have been several occasions where Anderson has broken stories regarding Jeffery, citing that he contacted her directly on all of these occasions and they seem to have a good relationship where he's been willing to talk to her in the past about items like this. Some examples: here, here, here, here, here, here, and here.

Last year, it was widely suspected that Jeffery was the anonymous player who gave three strong complaints to Anderson about the Eagles offensive performance, complaining that Zach Ertz got too many touches from Wentz, we weren't running enough and that the team chemistry wasn't as good.

After these reports came out last week, it was suspected that Jeffery may again have something to do with this. Jeff McLane of ESPN asked him three times if he was the source. He never gave a denial on the first two times he was asked, saying first that it could be anybody, that it sounds like they're trying to make up a story, and then finally said, "Nah," when asked again. Tweet from McLane below.


On WIP this morning, Eskin told Angelo Cataldi that he knows it was Jeffery. Josina Anderson then sent out a tweet saying that Eskin has no idea about who she talks to but never actually denied that it was him.

McLane then asked Doug about it point blank, asking if Eskin put that information out there because the team wanted him to, since he's well connected, is a part of the Eagles radio broadcast, flies on the plane, got a Super Bowl ring, etc. Doug didn't really give much of an answer and said he didn't want to talk about that, since it had nothing to do with Dallas or Buffalo. Apparently there was also then a confrontation between Eskin and McLane, started by Eskin.


2. Lane Johnson Comments about Lack of Discipline
Last night, after the game, Lane Johnson mentioned that players have been late for meetings and practices among other things.

"Really, it's gonna probably be a callout session," Johnson said. "Everybody will be held accountable. You know, little stuff that slides during the week — late to practice, late to meetings, late to this and that. Stuff will be held accountable for. I think that will maybe creep into the games."

Pederson was asked about this and really couldn't give a good answer about if players were missing for practices/meetings and if there was any discipline. Backtracked a lot and got caught in his words.

Malcolm Jenkins then went on the radio and said that he doesn't know what Johnson was talking about and doesn't think there's anything to it.


Overall, there's clearly a serious leadership issue with the team and unfortunately, a lot of that starts with Pederson. I do not believe that Pederson is, by any means, the issue with this team but I believe he needs to sit the team down and cut the BS because the team is crumbling from the inside-out and somebody needs to step up.
 
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