Other Sports: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): THIS IS BRAZIL - Super Bowl LIX Champions

[JojoTheWhale]

First series, you could sense KC OL would be in tough. Then the second series after the phi TD, ended quickly. Once it got to the 3rd possession you have to wonder, ok the 5 OL can’t hold up. Need a TE or RB to block. Would then leave 4 guys vs 7 in coverage. Basically everyone gets doubled save for like the check down option.

But that’s a better option than just trusting that OL to handle the phi pass rush.

They bet on the BYU OL from rd 2 to be their starter and he could not handle the job. Their IOl was strong with thuney, creed, and smith. Probably should have left that in tact and used TE or RB to help the OT.

They did use TEs to chip. Kelce was horrendous at it.

It wasn’t just the actual mechanics of the blocking. They could not pass off Twists and Stunts to save their lives. You can keep as many guys in as you want, but if guys are missing assignments, you’re screwed.

And then when they did get some time to throw, the life was just choked out of these Zones. Fangio called Quarters on 59% of their Snaps. That’s impossibly high. I can’t remember another team playing that much of it in recent memory. To tell the story of how it played out, we need to look at how their preparation manifested in plays like the DeJean Pick 6. He’s the Flat guy. It’s Quarters. He realizes that they’re flooding his side deep and at NFL game speed, he is able to process that his Flat is completely meaningless because it’s 3rd & forever. That means he can try to drive on that ball. Only well-coached teams and smart players get that type of play. You need both.

Watching it back, I don’t think this was Andy’s best game at all.

 

[trostol]

any mock drafts a Bucs guy can get excited about?

 

[Taijuan Fedotov]

Wanted to word dump some thoughts on the season/team...

Lurie and Roseman are the best in the business. If you have terrible ownership/management your team stands no chance. Look at the Jets, or those incompetent shit heels that run the orange team in town.

I'm done giving Hurts and Siranni in a hard time. I still don't know what Siranni does but it works. Hurts has found his niche for maximum effectiveness of his skill set and has protected the ball incredibly well since early in the season.

Barkley was insane all year, the best from a skill position I've seen next to that 23 TD year from Moss. He's the best RB prospect I've seen to ever to come into the draft. Myself being a PSU fan I was sad he ended up on the Giants, and I wasn't thrilled with giving major money to a RB, but it all worked out in the end in the greatest way possible. He got a ring and the yardage record. And how about his blocking ability? This offense doesn't work like it does without Goedert's blocking ability as well.

There was a two season period not so long ago the Eagles had the very worst group of WRs in the entire NFL. In comes Smith and then Brown. Two incredible talents. I'm especially happy for Brown. I wanted him in the draft but he got sniped IIRC right before the Eagles. His ability was wasted at Ole Miss and with the Titans.

Stoutland and his OL are studs. They seemingly didn't miss a beat losing a future HOFer in Kelce. Just crazy.

It's hard to believe what Fangio and his defense accomplished all while being the youngest unit in the league. In particular I want to mention Sweat. Before the SB two years ago I read an interview about how he was drafted a few months after the 2017 Eagles team won and how motivated he was to be part of a win. He would get congratulations all the time but have to tell people he wasn't part of that team. He was firing on all cylinders last night. I imagine there will be turnover for this unit. They flat out might not be able to afford Sweat, Baun, and Williams. And Graham might retire. I do look forward to watching Carter, Smith, DeJean, and Mitchell for years to come though.

Jake Elliot is nails.

All and all just an amazing season capped off by a surreal SB. They boat raced a dynasty team. This team peaked like Usain Bolt in the 2009 world championships.

 

[ajgoal]

They did use TEs to chip. Kelce was horrendous at it.

It wasn’t just the actual mechanics of the blocking. They could not pass off Twists and Stunts to save their lives. You can keep as many guys in as you want, but if guys are missing assignments, you’re screwed.

And then when they did get some time to throw, the life was just choked out of these Zones. Fangio called Quarters on 59% of their Snaps. That’s impossibly high. I can’t remember another team playing that much of it in recent memory. To tell the story of how it played out, we need to look at how their preparation manifested in plays like the DeJean Pick 6. He’s the Flat guy. It’s Quarters. He realizes that they’re flooding his side deep and at NFL game speed, he is able to process that his Flat is completely meaningless because it’s 3rd & forever. That means he can try to drive on that ball. Only well-coached teams and smart players get that type of play. You need both.

Watching it back, I don’t think this was Andy’s best game at all.

One day, I want to watch a game replay with you lecturing play by play what's happening.

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[JojoTheWhale]

One day, I want to watch a game replay with you lecturing play by play what's happening.

Watch the alternate Next Gen Stats broadcast on a Thursday night game and you’ll notice a hell of a lot more than you think. You zoom the camera angle out and you understand.

 

[MJL66]

They did use TEs to chip. Kelce was horrendous at it.

It wasn’t just the actual mechanics of the blocking. They could not pass off Twists and Stunts to save their lives. You can keep as many guys in as you want, but if guys are missing assignments, you’re screwed.

And then when they did get some time to throw, the life was just choked out of these Zones. Fangio called Quarters on 59% of their Snaps. That’s impossibly high. I can’t remember another team playing that much of it in recent memory. To tell the story of how it played out, we need to look at how their preparation manifested in plays like the DeJean Pick 6. He’s the Flat guy. It’s Quarters. He realizes that they’re flooding his side deep and at NFL game speed, he is able to process that his Flat is completely meaningless because it’s 3rd & forever. That means he can try to drive on that ball. Only well-coached teams and smart players get that type of play. You need both.

Watching it back, I don’t think this was Andy’s best game at all.

Great analysis. Thank you. Tom Brady should take lessons.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

And how about his blocking ability?

I’m so glad you brought this up. Saquon was an absolute monster in pass protection in the playoffs. I had been hoping for a guy who could do that for years, but I never expected it to come in the same package as one of the two true top tier backs.

Still disappointed that Gainwell isn’t that guy. I thought he would be.

 

[MJL66]

Wait. There was a Parsons trade leak? It will never happen, but I would bet Howie has him as the most valuable non-QB in the league. They're calling.

I'm hoping for Myles Garrett

 

[DancingPanther]

They did use TEs to chip. Kelce was horrendous at it.

It wasn’t just the actual mechanics of the blocking. They could not pass off Twists and Stunts to save their lives. You can keep as many guys in as you want, but if guys are missing assignments, you’re screwed.

And then when they did get some time to throw, the life was just choked out of these Zones. Fangio called Quarters on 59% of their Snaps. That’s impossibly high. I can’t remember another team playing that much of it in recent memory. To tell the story of how it played out, we need to look at how their preparation manifested in plays like the DeJean Pick 6. He’s the Flat guy. It’s Quarters. He realizes that they’re flooding his side deep and at NFL game speed, he is able to process that his Flat is completely meaningless because it’s 3rd & forever. That means he can try to drive on that ball. Only well-coached teams and smart players get that type of play. You need both.

Watching it back, I don’t think this was Andy’s best game at all.

Skill issue

 

[BrindamoursNose]

@JojoTheWhale

Would you take Micah over Myles Garrett for next year, with all things being equal? (contract AAV, term, age)

 

[prototypical4thliner]

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Do the monkey tail. Just look it up.

 

[DancingPanther]

Do the hands to the face/head of Mahomes on the strip sack even matter? The ball was out by the time contact happened. What's the rule rhere

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[StreetHawk]

@JojoTheWhale

Would you take Micah over Myles Garrett for next year, with all things being equal? (contract AAV, term, age)

Parsons just finished his 4th year. 5th year option, which someone of his caliber should not play under. Same goes for that entire class of top end talent. Guys like Sewell, Smith, Surtain have signed. Pending are the likes of Chase, Slater, Horn, Parsons, etc. Technically Garrett is signed for 2025 and 2026 but no Guaranteed money as of right now. Both years become guaranteed at the end of the 1st week of the new NFL season in the latter part of March. Expectation is that Garrett will get a new contract with his new team to give him $80 mill or more of guaranteed money.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

Parsons just finished his 4th year. 5th year option, which someone of his caliber should not play under. Same goes for that entire class of top end talent. Guys like Sewell, Smith, Surtain have signed. Pending are the likes of Chase, Slater, Horn, Parsons, etc. Technically Garrett is signed for 2025 and 2026 but no Guaranteed money as of right now. Both years become guaranteed at the end of the 1st week of the new NFL season in the latter part of March. Expectation is that Garrett will get a new contract with his new team to give him $80 mill or more of guaranteed money.

None of this answers what I just asked, my man.

 

[StreetHawk]

None of this answers what I just asked, my man.

Garrett is the better player. But, both guys should be getting big contracts.

Even at 29, with Garrett you don’t have any serious injuries. So, you’re banking on 3 high end years which covers the guaranteed portion of his contract. Parson likely will play longer but that’s an unknown.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I’m too lazy to look it up but it feels like the defense was forcing like 3-4 turnovers a game along with a handful of sacks the last couple months. It looked like every DL was causing havoc in the Super Bowl. Really they should have given them all co-MVP. It will suck losing a couple of them but Howie is good at drafting them. I’d really like to keep Baun. First bonafide difference maker at LB is a long time

 

[flyershockey]

They did use TEs to chip. Kelce was horrendous at it.

It wasn’t just the actual mechanics of the blocking. They could not pass off Twists and Stunts to save their lives. You can keep as many guys in as you want, but if guys are missing assignments, you’re screwed.

And then when they did get some time to throw, the life was just choked out of these Zones. Fangio called Quarters on 59% of their Snaps. That’s impossibly high. I can’t remember another team playing that much of it in recent memory. To tell the story of how it played out, we need to look at how their preparation manifested in plays like the DeJean Pick 6. He’s the Flat guy. It’s Quarters. He realizes that they’re flooding his side deep and at NFL game speed, he is able to process that his Flat is completely meaningless because it’s 3rd & forever. That means he can try to drive on that ball. Only well-coached teams and smart players get that type of play. You need both.

Watching it back, I don’t think this was Andy’s best game at all.

I think he was supposed to have the Y on the (likely) hitch route coming out of the 3X1, but I could be wrong. Because the TE stayed in to protect on the rollout to the flat (which Baun keyed on nicely, btw), it allowed him to essentially play center field with his eyes on Mahomes the whole time. Vic had the boys humming.

OL issues aside, Kelce's inability to do anything after the catch was the biggest difference between last night and two years ago. The Eagles were giving him cushion with all the quarters, and old Kelce would have shredded that. The wheels and flat routes only started working two years ago because Kelce sucked all the eye discipline to the MOF in the first half.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I think he was supposed to have the Y on the (likely) hitch route coming out of the 3X1, but I could be wrong. Because the TE stayed in to protect on the rollout to the flat (which Baun keyed on nicely, btw), it allowed him to essentially play center field with his eyes on Mahomes the whole time. Vic had the boys humming.

OL issues aside, Kelce's inability to do anything after the catch was the biggest difference between last night and two years ago. The Eagles were giving him cushion with all the quarters, and old Kelce would have shredded that. The wheels and flat routes only started working two years ago because Kelce sucked all the eye discipline to the MOF in the first half.

There are just so damn many small things they did well that it’s impossible to even attempt to remember them all.

I haven’t mentioned Quinyon at all. That guy was playing at a completely different speed than KC. They weren’t getting deep on him unless someone launched a bola.

There was a Wheel Route where KC got Xavier Worthy 1 on 1 with a LB. You can see Mahomes shorting out because he knows he has what he wants and just has to get over there at the right time. And then Baun just keeps up with Worthy. What?!

@JojoTheWhale

Would you take Micah over Myles Garrett for next year, with all things being equal? (contract AAV, term, age)

There’s just no wrong answer. They’re both flat out better than everyone else. The reason I think Howie would value Parsons higher is just age. Garrett’s a better run defender. After they lose Graham and Sweat, they could really use an edge or two with some heft. Any preference is completely defensible to me.

 

[flyershockey]

There are just so damn many small things they did well that it’s impossible to even attempt to remember them all.

I haven’t mentioned Quinyon at all. That guy was playing at a completely different speed than KC. They weren’t getting deep on him unless someone launched a bola.

There was a Wheel Route where KC got Xavier Worthy 1 on 1 with a LB. You can see Mahomes shorting out because he knows he has what he wants and just has to get over there at the right time. And then Baun just keeps up with Worthy. What?!

Baun plays with such good contain angles, which I'm sure comes from his days as an undersized edge guy playing the 5. Him and Dean are basically a dream scenario for a DC at off ball LB. They don't lose leverage and they get their guy on the ground at an absurdly high clip.

I really love watching good LB play. Part of that probably comes from watching Kirby single handedly keeping the position alive at the college level by making it the feature of his defense, but I'm glad people are starting to put some respect back on that position.

 

[Cody Webster]

Replay of the game currently airing on NFLN

 

[Cody Webster]

Super Bowl projections say record 126M watched

Fox Sports is projecting a Super Bowl record average audience of 126 million U.S. viewers across television and streaming platforms.

www.espn.com

 

[BrindamoursNose]

DeAndre

Embarrassing, bruh

 

[prototypical4thliner]

Just another thing to think about. This was the 101 version of Vic’s defense. Imagine throwing some of his blitz packages in for shits and giggles moving forward.