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In the 15 yrs since Peyton Manning, the domed Colts offense has been in the top 5 once, top 10 five times, and 30th twice.

Domed Detroit has been in the top 5 for the last 3 years, but only 2 other times in 15 yrs.

No dome Patriots under Brady were never out of the top ten.

Domes don't matter, players do.
 
In the 15 yrs since Peyton Manning, the domed Colts offense has been in the top 5 once, top 10 five times, and 30th twice.

Domed Detroit has been in the top 5 for the last 3 years, but only 2 other times in 15 yrs.

No dome Patriots under Brady were never out of the top ten.

Domes don't matter, players do.
Kurt Warner? Domes don’t matter for the great ones. Sometimes the really good ones can take advantage of the benefits.
 
In the 15 yrs since Peyton Manning, the domed Colts offense has been in the top 5 once, top 10 five times, and 30th twice.

Domed Detroit has been in the top 5 for the last 3 years, but only 2 other times in 15 yrs.

No dome Patriots under Brady were never out of the top ten.

Domes don't matter, players do.
This is so wildly disingenuous lol

Your post is meaningless.You just told us bad offenses are bad and good offenses are good.

If you're trying to argue about indoor stadiums convey more offense, you have to look at the splits per season indoor vs outdoor and look for trends. Someone sort of almost did that for QBs over on reddit, and surprise surprise, QBs on the whole saw their passer ratings rise when playing inside vs outside. This isn't foolproof either, as QB rating has flaws and also isn't the best surrogate marker of successful offense.

Here's the post for reference

Ideally, you'd stratify by team, by year, and look at the difference in their DVOA and/or EPA based on environment (i.e. indoor vs outdoor)

It is not unreasonable to hypothesize bad teams are bad inside and worse outside, while good teams are good inside and a little worse but still good outside. This is because bad teams are bad and good teams are good. But that's not to say weather (or lack thereof) "doesn't matter". The answer is out there.
 
This is so wildly disingenuous lol

Your post is meaningless.You just told us bad offenses are bad and good offenses are good.

If you're trying to argue about indoor stadiums convey more offense, you have to look at the splits per season indoor vs outdoor and look for trends. Someone sort of almost did that for QBs over on reddit, and surprise surprise, QBs on the whole saw their passer ratings rise when playing inside vs outside. This isn't foolproof either, as QB rating has flaws and also isn't the best surrogate marker of successful offense.

Here's the post for reference

Ideally, you'd stratify by team, by year, and look at the difference in their DVOA and/or EPA based on environment (i.e. indoor vs outdoor)

It is not unreasonable to hypothesize bad teams are bad inside and worse outside, while good teams are good inside and a little worse but still good outside. This is because bad teams are bad and good teams are good. But that's not to say weather (or lack thereof) "doesn't matter". The answer is out there.


This can be tough to disentangle, but in general, an Outdoor NFL passing offense at Home is about equivalent to that same offense on the Road when Indoors. Every other Home/Road Out/In (Dome @ Dome, etc) split is measurably negative. That's the simplest way I've ever seen it explained.

There's too much involved to pin it on individual QBs or coaches or even schemes. It helps in a broad sense. That's the one thing we know for sure.
 
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