Proposal: Phi-edm

[mercury]

How is Yakupov on the left side?

 

[ManofSteel55]

This seems like the Oilers taking on a couple of guys who used to be good and Philly getting a guy who might be good someday. Not sure if this is the right deal for us to move Yak, I'm not a fan of either Read or Streit at this point in their careers.

 

[ManofSteel55]

How is Yakupov on the left side?

Not great. He's better on the right. Not that he is great there either.

 

[McSuper]

Streit makes 5.25m, so it's 3.25 after 2 retained

God that is bad . I would say it has to be 50% retained . We can not be up that tight to the cap with McD likely to hit his bonuses

 

[McSuper]

How is Yakupov on the left side?

Like dropping your boat anchor thru the centre of your boat . You know is is going to sink and sink fast

 

[thadd]

Man these Yakupov trades are brutal. I'd much rather waive him than take any of the proposals I've seen.

I'd be happy to pack Yakupov with a 3rd for a 2nd from a weaker team.

 

[Tripod]

Man these Yakupov trades are brutal. I'd much rather waive him than take any of the proposals I've seen.

I'd be happy to pack Yakupov with a 3rd for a 2nd from a weaker team.

It's funny you say that yet those 2 guys fill voids on the Oilers....a PP QB and defensively responsible bottom 6 player who can PK and could chip in 15 goals and 30 points.

 

[flyersfan018]

Wouldn't mind this if the Flyers could move Voracek to the left. Otherwise they have no room at RW.

 

[bobbythebrain]

It's funny you say that yet those 2 guys fill voids on the Oilers....a PP QB and defensively responsible bottom 6 player who can PK and could chip in 15 goals and 30 points.

Both players would help this team bigtime. Not even debateable

 

[DingDongCharlie]

I'd trade Yakupov for Reid. Philly gets a reclamation project and cap space, Edmonton gets a better bottom 6 player with pk ability.

 

[captainpaxil]

I'd do read for yak. Just have g feed him pucks and if it doesn't work out we'll replace him next year

 

[thadd]

It's funny you say that yet those 2 guys fill voids on the Oilers....a PP QB and defensively responsible bottom 6 player who can PK and could chip in 15 goals and 30 points.

No thanks.

1 - We're more than good enough up front at this point. Just need to give the guys time to gel. We're getting good enough performances our of our forwards that even with Pacman out for a month we could afford to waive Yak and have Pool Party start the season in the AHL.

2 - I do not believe that either of Read or Streit are built for the west.

3 - Have no interest in paying Read next year.

I'll hold out for when Edmonton is ready to trade Nuge + for a 2nd pairing RHD + 3rd line C, thanks.

 

[Rebuilt]

We arent trading Yak. This is the 349th thread by other fans trying to abscond the guy cheap. Sometimes no really does mean 'no'.

 

[flyersfan018]

No thanks.

1 - We're more than good enough up front at this point. Just need to give the guys time to gel. We're getting good enough performances our of our forwards that even with Pacman out for a month we could afford to waive Yak and have Pool Party start the season in the AHL.

2 - I do not believe that either of Read or Streit are built for the west.

3 - Have no interest in paying Read next year.

I'll hold out for when Edmonton is ready to trade Nuge + for a 2nd pairing RHD + 3rd line C, thanks.

Based on what exactly?

 

[BrindamoursNose]

No thanks.

1 - We're more than good enough up front at this point. Just need to give the guys time to gel. We're getting good enough performances our of our forwards that even with Pacman out for a month we could afford to waive Yak and have Pool Party start the season in the AHL.

2 - I do not believe that either of Read or Streit are built for the west.

3 - Have no interest in paying Read next year.

I'll hold out for when Edmonton is ready to trade Nuge + for a 2nd pairing RHD + 3rd line C, thanks.

What does that even mean?

 

[Tripod]

We arent trading Yak. This is the 349th thread by other fans trying to abscond the guy cheap. Sometimes no really does mean 'no'.

And yet almost every Flyers poster said unless a Yak can play LW, he isn't needed because Voracek, Simmonds and a Weise are all better than him.

Personally, I think they should put Yak with McDavid and hope McD drives the play so much that they are rarely in the DZone.

 

[Curufinwe]

There's a fantasy out west that the hockey there is tougher or played at a higher level.

 

[Hockeypete49]

This Flyers fan doesn't want Yak for anything. If he can't produce in a no pressure environment like Edmonton, how's he going to produce in a high pressure market ?

I agree. Plus the fans would eat him up. Now that Luke Schenn is gone the haters are looking for a new whipping boy. They always need one no matter what and Yak and the way he plays would be a very easy target. He would be running home in a heartbeat.

 

[Draiskull]

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I agree. Plus the fans would eat him up. Now that Luke Schenn is gone the haters are looking for a new whipping boy. They always need one no matter what and Yak and the way he plays would be a very easy target. He would be running home in a heartbeat.

so how does Yakupov play in your opinion? Edmonton fans are as crazy as any in the league and every little thing the players do gets highlighted here. Forget grocery shopping the players cant even use public washrooms without a line of fans waiting for an autograph. Yakupov has his issues but he never has an issue with the fans. Canadian markets are as high pressure as any. He would be loved wherever he goes by the fans at the arena. keyboard ninjas are another beast. He is the opposite of Luke Schenn.. He works very hard and is always buzzing around. He also feeds off the fans and plays for them as much as playing for his team. I doubt anyone at games has ever boo'd him.. Even when he returns to play against the Oilers down the road he will be cheered on. Fans jump on players who dont seem to give a crap and looks lazy.. Yak is the opposite.

 

[Appleyard]

so how does Yakupov play in your opinion? Edmonton fans are as crazy as any in the league and every little thing the players do gets highlighted here. Forget grocery shopping the players cant even use public washrooms without a line of fans waiting for an autograph. Yakupov has his issues but he never has an issue with the fans. Canadian markets are as high pressure as any. He would be loved wherever he goes by the fans at the arena. keyboard ninjas are another beast. He is the opposite of Luke Schenn.. He works very hard and is always buzzing around. He also feeds off the fans and plays for them as much as playing for his team. I doubt anyone at games has ever boo'd him.. Even when he returns to play against the Oilers down the road he will be cheered on. Fans jump on players who dont seem to give a crap and looks lazy.. Yak is the opposite.

It is not so much the fans, to begin with anyway... it is the media...

 

[Draiskull]

It is not so much the fans, to begin with anyway... it is the media...

and you think Edmonton media spares Yakupov? There is a daily half hr segment on Yakupov bashing on the radio. Hockey is the only major sport in this city and is pretty much all they talk about on sports radio. Its the media here that is running Yak out of town by blowing up every small mistake. There is a reason why Yak's recent interviews are so bitter.

 

[Snotbubbles]

and you think Edmonton media spares Yakupov? There is a daily half hr segment on Yakupov bashing on the radio. Hockey is the only major sport in this city and is pretty much all they talk about on sports radio. Its the media here that is running Yak out of town by blowing up every small mistake. There is a reason why Yak's recent interviews are so bitter.

When it comes to crazy fans, no city compares to Philly. We wear that like a badge of honor.

 

[Homesick]

Matt Read? No need(Eberle, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, Kassian, Versteeg, Pitlick RW options)
Mark Streit? LHD that also isn't needed and still massively overpaid even with retained salary

 

[ManofSteel55]

There's a fantasy out west that the hockey there is tougher or played at a higher level.

Not a higher level, but it is tighter checking and often more built towards bigger, heavier players. The east is typically more wide open which allows for more skilled play.

 

[DasKaiser]

Keep in mind Streit is a LHD and power play specialist that plays on the right side

To Edmonton:
Mark Streit - 1yr $3,250,000 ($2m retained - $5.25m original salary)
Matt Read - 2yr $3,625,000 (nothing retained-editted based on reaction)
2017 2nd round pick

To Philly:
Nail Yakupov - 1yr $2,500,000 RFA
2017 3rd round pick

Reason:
The Oilers have to many elite forwards to have a weakness on the top power play. Streit fills that void and allows the young D to learn on the second unit. Read is versatile and a good analytics player ideal for bottom 6, which is where they always play Yakupov incorrectly anyway. Read's also a 20 goal scorer when his linemates aren't RJ Umberger and Vinny Lecavalier. Flyers could use Yakupov on a scoring line with either Giroux or Voracek (and how he finds his scoring touch not seen since juniors) while using guys like Simmonds or Raffl on the 3rd line, without having defensive liability problems.

I've been thinking of the Flyers as a trade partner, but not in this deal. Philly has some good talent on the way on d and could see something more along those lines.