Proposal: Phi-edm

TheBlackFish

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Keep in mind Streit is a LHD and power play specialist that plays on the right side

To Edmonton:
Mark Streit - 1yr $3,250,000 ($2m retained - $5.25m original salary)
Matt Read - 2yr $3,625,000 (nothing retained-editted based on reaction)
2017 2nd round pick

To Philly:
Nail Yakupov - 1yr $2,500,000 RFA
2017 3rd round pick

Reason:
The Oilers have to many elite forwards to have a weakness on the top power play. Streit fills that void and allows the young D to learn on the second unit. Read is versatile and a good analytics player ideal for bottom 6, which is where they always play Yakupov incorrectly anyway. Read's also a 20 goal scorer when his linemates aren't RJ Umberger and Vinny Lecavalier. Flyers could use Yakupov on a scoring line with either Giroux or Voracek (and how he finds his scoring touch not seen since juniors) while using guys like Simmonds or Raffl on the 3rd line, without having defensive liability problems.
 
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Cootsfanclub

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Flyers are essentially paying $5.6 mil for Yak this year, and his salary plus $1.125 next year.

Wouldn't pull the trigger on that one.
 

McSuper

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Keep in mind Streit is a LHD and power play specialist that plays on the right side

To Edmonton:
Mark Streit - 1yr $3,250,000 ($2m retained)
Matt Read - 2yr $2,500,000 ($1.125m retained)
2017 2nd round pick

To Philly:
Nail Yakupov - 1yr $2,500,000 RFA
2017 3rd round pick

Reason:
The Oilers have to many elite forwards to have a weakness on the top power play. Streit fills that void and allows the young D to learn on the second unit. Read is versatile and a good analytics player ideal for bottom 6, which is where they always play Yakupov incorrectly anyway. Read's also a 20 goal scorer when his linemates aren't RJ Umberger and Vinny Lecavalier. Flyers could use Yakupov on a scoring line with either Giroux or Voracek (and how he finds his scoring touch not seen since juniors) while using guys like Simmonds or Raffl on the 3rd line, without having defensive liability problems.



I would do this deal . A couple of little things would have to change but they would be in the Flyers favour .


To Edmonton:
Mark Streit - 1yr $3,250,000 ($1.625 retained legal amount)
Matt Read - 2yr $2,500,000 ($1.25 m retained) Not even sure we need you to retain on Read
2017 2nd round pick



To Philly:
Nail Yakupov - 1yr $2,500,000 RFA
2017 3rd round pick
 
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PatrikOverAuston

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Yeah, no need to retain on Read if the Flyers are also holding back 50% of Streit's salary. I'd do that and even add in a piece to Philly as well- probably a waiver-eligible prospect at either F or D, whichever they prefer.
 

TheBlackFish

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Flyers are essentially paying $5.6 mil for Yak this year, and his salary plus $1.125 next year.

Wouldn't pull the trigger on that one.

So it makes more sense to pay Matt Read and Mark Streit (who isn't needed anymore with MD Z, Ghost, and Provo) $8,875,000? They aren't helping the team, Yak might be able to.
 

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I would do this deal . A couple of little things would have to change but they would be in the Flyers favour .


To Edmonton:
Mark Streit - 1yr $3,250,000 ($1.625 retained legal amount)
Matt Read - 2yr $2,500,000 ($1.25 m retained) Not even sure we need you to retain on Read
2017 2nd round pick



To Philly:
Nail Yakupov - 1yr $2,500,000 RFA
2017 3rd round pick
Streit makes 5.25m, so it's 3.25 after 2 retained
 

TheBlackFish

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I think the most you can retain is %50. If the flyers are retaining that much they should get more

The salaries were adjusted for what would be retained.

Streit original salary = $5,250,000 so $2.5m retained is less than 50%

Read original salary = $3,625,000
 

McWeber

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Pass as an Oiler fan. I'm not expecting great value for Yak but it would be nice to get something that could help us. Would prefer a pick over two players I'd rather not have in our lineup.
 

Cootsfanclub

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So it makes more sense to pay Matt Read and Mark Streit (who isn't needed anymore with MD Z, Ghost, and Provo) $8,875,000? They aren't helping the team, Yak might be able to.

Streit helps the team and so does a healthy Read. I don't know if Yak can play left wing, but when it comes to guys that play on the right side we already have Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Konecny, and Weise. Two of them are already being forced to the left side.
 

Curufinwe

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Flyers are essentially paying $5.6 mil for Yak this year, and his salary plus $1.125 next year.

That's assuming they would re-sign him. If they don't then they gain $2.5m in cap space for 17-18, as well as $3.25m in space this season.
 

TheBlackFish

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Streit helps the team and so does a healthy Read. I don't know if Yak can play left wing, but when it comes to guys that play on the right side we already have Voracek, Simmonds, Schenn, Konecny, and Weise. Two of them are already being forced to the left side.
Streit is average 5v5. He needs to be on a power play. Flyers have way too many bottom 6 guys. Read may be on the 4th or the 13th man in which case he'll be under utilized.

Schenn and Konecny are playing on the left this year. Top 9 would be something like:

Schenn - Giroux - Yak
Konecny - Coots - Voracek
Raffl - Cousins - Simmonds
 

Burnt Biscuits

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Pass as an Oiler fan. I'm not expecting great value for Yak but it would be nice to get something that could help us. Would prefer a pick over two players I'd rather not have in our lineup.

I could see Streit helping us he's an old man, but last I checked he's still pretty capable on the Powerplay.

To the Flyers fan asking Nail had a fairly strong preference to the RW as a rookie, he used to be noticeably worse on the LW, but his more recent stints filling in there have shown it to be much less of an issue, like most Russian he prefers his off-wing for the purpose of opening himself up for one-timers.

If you are looking for a LW I wouldn't say the Oilers are completely married to Benoit Pouliot and some think Drake Caggiula is ready to step in. Pouliot is a much better player than Nail in nearly every conceivable way.
 

ThatNavyGuy

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Streit is average 5v5. He needs to be on a power play. Flyers have way too many bottom 6 guys. Read may be on the 4th or the 13th man in which case he'll be under utilized.

Schenn and Konecny are playing on the left this year. Top 9 would be something like:

Schenn - Giroux - Yak
Konecny - Coots - Voracek
Raffl - Cousins - Simmonds

I don't see Yak beating out Jake or Wayne for the top 2 lines. Play him with Raf and Cousins and he'd get sheltered minutes and that line could punch in some goals. Though I'd be worried about the defensive side, especially with Yak....
 

Draiskull

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Streit sucks and holds negative value. This PPQB had 8PPP last year.. is slower than Reinhart and brings no physicality. Would rather pick someone like Barberio off waivers or sign Wisneisky as UFA
 

TheBlackFish

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Streit sucks and holds negative value. This PPQB had 8PPP last year.. is slower than Reinhart and brings no physicality. Would rather pick someone like Barberio off waivers or sign Wisneisky as UFA

Streit got hurt last year and was subsequently replaced on the PP by a guy named Shayne Gostisberre, ever heard of him? If Streit is on a 1st power play unit he has 40 plus points, look it up. On Connor McDavids power play, 50+ points. I think Sekera was the top guy in Edmonton last year with like 30? That's pathetic considering the talent around him. Good thing for the Oilers you aren't their GM or they would be looking at another 10 years in last place.
 

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The Flyers have no need for RW's with Simmonds, Voracek, and Weise..plus Schenn who is a natural RW playing LW.
 

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The Flyers have no need for RW's with Simmonds, Voracek, and Weise..plus Schenn who is a natural RW playing LW.

Yup:

And Konecny who has played more RW than left.
And Read who is a natural RW.
And Lyubimov who will likely play RW this year.

And Lindblom & Aube-Kubel probably coming in not so distant future (maybe next year for Lindblom) who play RW very well.


Flyers are just stacked at RW really... LW, not so much... though ofc we know Schenn can play there well and Voracek & Konecny can probably play there well enough.
 

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Streit sucks and holds negative value. This PPQB had 8PPP last year.. is slower than Reinhart and brings no physicality. Would rather pick someone like Barberio off waivers or sign Wisneisky as UFA

Classic ingnoramous post.

Streit was replaced on PP1 by Ghost when he sustained a very serious lower body injury. Ghost did so well that Streit wasnt able to get that spot back. He had a 50 point season the year prior playing PP1. He looked good once on the PP for Team Europe in the World Cup. As for his speed, he gets around fine. No hockey player on the planet is slower than Griffin Reinhart. He makes Luke Schenn look like Pavel Bure.
 

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Yup:

And Konecny who has played more RW than left.
And Read who is a natural RW.
And Lyubimov who will likely play RW this year.

And Lindblom & Aube-Kubel probably coming in not so distant future (maybe next year for Lindblom) who play RW very well.


Flyers are just stacked at RW really... LW, not so much... though ofc we know Schenn can play there well and Voracek & Konecny can probably play there well enough.

Yeah there is literally 0 need for Yakupov. If Konecny makes the team, there is 0 need for any wingers. Our only question mark would be 3C and whether Cousins solidifies himself there or not.
 

TheBlackFish

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Yeah there is literally 0 need for Yakupov. If Konecny makes the team, there is 0 need for any wingers. Our only question mark would be 3C and whether Cousins solidifies himself there or not.

You forget how much trouble they had scoring last year. To many play makers not enough shooters. Konecny will make them better but he is a play maker. Yak has a very good shot and one timer. I'm sick of watching Voracek whiff and pass up shots and Raffl miss the net or get weak flubbed shots off when G sets them up perfectly. Schenn and Simmonds are garbage goal scorers, which are needed, but only G has a decent shot and one timer. he can't pass to himself. G's desperate for a shooter
 

Flyerfan47

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This Flyers fan doesn't want Yak for anything. If he can't produce in a no pressure environment like Edmonton, how's he going to produce in a high pressure market ?
 

Draiskull

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This Flyers fan doesn't want Yak for anything. If he can't produce in a no pressure environment like Edmonton, how's he going to produce in a high pressure market ?

funny stuff.
Just because the team suck doesnt mean the fans\media in the town dont live and breath hockey.
 

Starat327

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No need for Yak, we just have too many RW. I wouldn't mind gambling on the potential, but now at the cost above.

Streit, if allowed to play on the PP a bit, and retained at 50%, will bring a decent return by himself at the deadline, if flyers are out of it. His stats dropped last year as he was out with injury, and then replaced by Ghost. He's likely better than any contending teams' bottom pair, and doesn't look out of place in the middle pair if something goes awry.
 

Tripod

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We don't really need Yak, but I might actually do this type of deal and see if we could turn him around.
 

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