HF Habs: PGT: 4 Nations Face-Off: Canada wins inaugural Championship, 3-2 (OT) over USA

[dinodebino]

Jacob Slavin really stood out in this tournament, Dylan Larkin was good as well. I felt that the big guns for the US let them down, Matthews, Hughes, and Eichel specifically. The team defense was the strong suit for the Americans and they could have easily won.

Hughes looked small and weak. I was not impressed. He looked like a Temu version of Pat Kane.

 

[Goldthorpe]

Jacob Slavin really stood out in this tournament, Dylan Larkin was good as well. I felt that the big guns for the US let them down, Matthews, Hughes, and Eichel specifically. The team defense was the strong suit for the Americans and they could have easily won.

Matthews is particular... I don't know if he was injured, but seeing him and Marner have completely different tournaments like that make me wonder about the Leafs and the true reasons behind their issues. I wouldn't be surprised if the whole performance really helps Marner's confidence going forward.

Meanwhile, Canada's offensive stars absolutely delivered. The prove everything they had to prove.

 

[dinodebino]

May I ask? Do people in Québec whose first language is French feel French or Canadian (majority, of course)? We can't compare your situation with Brazil (Portuguese) or Argentina and Mexico (Spanish). Majority of you are descended from the French, which cannot be said of Argentines, Mexicans and Brazilians. Because in Mexico the majority of the population is mestizo, in Brazil and Argentina real Portuguese/Spanish are also hard to find.The referendums on Quebec independence were not called for nothing.

I repeat, it is only a question, because I do not know what the situation is in Québec.

Eeesh, not the French. Actually, lots of Québécois find their ‘cousins’ annoying and pedantic.

The political elite feel close to France because of the similarities in SOME PARTS of the culture and the origin of our colony. But let’s not forget that France essentially abandoned us in favour of Caribbean colonies. They became enamoured with us again after we saved their bacon during WWs.

 

[Goldthorpe]

May I ask? Do people in Québec whose first language is French feel French or Canadian (majority, of course)? We can't compare your situation with Brazil (Portuguese) or Argentina and Mexico (Spanish). Majority of you are descended from the French, which cannot be said of Argentines, Mexicans and Brazilians. Because in Mexico the majority of the population is mestizo, in Brazil and Argentina real Portuguese/Spanish are also hard to find.The referendums on Quebec independence were not called for nothing.

I repeat, it is only a question, because I do not know what the situation is in Québec.

Traditional French-Canadians who lives in Quebec don't see themselves as French culturally, the same way Americans don't consider themselves British. Some will mostly see themselves as Quebecers (a separate identity), some Canadians, and most a mix of both. There are more Quebecers who self-identify as Quebecers first than in other Canadian provinces - i.e. Quebecers are more nationalists, for historical reasons outside your question.

This has been somewhat compared to Texans, who also often see themselves more as "Texans" than Americans. I'm sure similar national dynamics also exist in Europe, but I don't have any good example in mind.

 

[VT]

Thank all of you for explaining the situation!!!

Traditional French-Canadians who lives in Quebec don't see themselves as French culturally, the same way Americans don't consider themselves British. Some will mostly see themselves as Quebecers (a separate identity), some Canadians, and most a mix of both. There are more Quebecers who self-identify as Quebecers first than in other Canadian provinces - i.e. Quebecers are more nationalists, for historical reasons outside your question.

This has been somewhat compared to Texans, who also often see themselves more as "Texans" than Americans. I'm sure similar national dynamics also exist in Europe, but I don't have any good example in mind.

In Europe there are many nations that live in individual states, so there is more of an emphasis on nationalities. But to give examples from countries near Slovakia, in Bohemia some people in Moravia feel more Moravian than Czech, in Germany some people in Bavaria feel more Bavarian than German. Btw, about Germany, there is one more thing, the former GDR may again separate from Germany. And now not on the basis of a political decision, but on the basis of the will of the citizens.

 

[SOLR]

Thank all of you for explaining the situation!!!


In Europe there are many nations that live in individual states, so there is more of an emphasis on nationalities. But to give examples from countries near Slovakia, in Bohemia some people in Moravia feel more Moravian than Czech, in Germany some people in Bavaria feel more Bavarian than German. Btw, about Germany, there is one more thing, the former GDR may again separate from Germany. And now not on the basis of a political decision, but on the basis of the will of the citizens.

+ Basques
+ Walloons
+ Flemish

 

[HuGort]

That was the most emotional charged up hockey since Summit Series

 

[ahmedou]

11th province >>> 51th states

 

[salbutera]

He punked them. To be honest I was surprised they didn't catch on earlier but they're Maga I was expecting too much intelligence from them.

It’s the Democratic stronghold of Boston..

 

[VT]

+ Basques
+ Walloons
+ Flemish

Basques are nations. Walloons and Flemish... it is similar situation like in Quebec, although a part of Flemish feel themselves Dutch.

 

[salbutera]

Eeesh, not the French. Actually, lots of Québécois find their ‘cousins’ annoying and pedantic.

The political elite feel close to France because of the similarities in SOME PARTS of the culture and the origin of our colony. But let’s not forget that France essentially abandoned us in favour of Caribbean colonies. They became enamoured with us again after we saved their bacon during WWs.

The French left the settlers abandoned for some 200+years - la langue de Moliere..

Pre Napoleonic French, which was regional dialects as was the case in all corners of the globe. Napoleon enforced Parisian French across the country, destroying dialects that existed across the country one of which was only retained in the foreign land of Quebec.

Same approach was followed suit by Mussolini in Italy(modern day Italian), and Chairman Mao Zedong (Mandarin across China)