I was not trying to dismiss Forsberg’s playoff performance. I was trying to show that Malkin’s playoff performance has been more essential to his team’s success. Forsberg’s team winning without him is a relatively small reason why I think Malkin is the better playoff performer.
Small reason? Seemed like the only reason presented in your argumentation.
Malkin has lead the playoffs in points twice and won the cup each time. (Plus another 20+ point finals run and an 18 point cup winning run with a bad shoulder).
Forsberg’s team didn’t even need him to play in the finals to win.
Forsberg scoring a bunch of points and getting bounced in the 3rd round trip is a cool trivia answer, but ultimately doesn’t mean much.
Either way if someone prefers Forsberg in the playoffs cool. It doesn’t really do much to close the gap in regular season performance.
Another way to phrase it would be like this? (It kind of is true, no?)
Malkin won 1 Cup with a great SCF performance, and 2 Cups average SCF performances (lets thank his team!).
Forsberg won 1 Cup with a great SCF performance, and 1 Cup while being unable to participate (lets thank his team!).
Obviously Malkin's 2009 run was much better than Forsberg's 96 run, but as you phrase it... scoring a bunch of points in 3 rounds is cool trivia...
I still don’t see how this is analogous to an “Ovechkin has never made it out of the 2nd round” argument. That is a massive blight on his otherwise stellar resume, especially in comparison to his contemporaries. Really has nothing to do with this thread though.
It really is in the traditional sense, but Ovechkin has done his part on more than one occasion. It's a popular argument to diminish his individual playoff performance.
I also don’t think “only scored 30 goals” is used to discredit Forsberg’s offense as it seem to showcase that he was not as well rounded of an offensive threat as the players he is compared to.
Ironically he's scoring goals at a higher pace than both Crosby and Malkin, while posting shooting percentages they could only dream of. There is a good argument to be made that the problem isn't that Forsberg wasn't well rounded enough, it's that he didn't shoot enough.
People are already constantly using these exact arguments to downplay Malkin, and Crosby’s(especially Crosby) playoff performances. Yet I have never seen you try and dispel those arguments with the same passion that you are here with Forsberg.
Perhaps they don't need it at this point in time? I sometimes play the devils advocate in Crosby threads just for argumentations sake, but I've spent my fair time defending him as well.
I already stated in my first post in this thread 'Forsberg fan vote Malkin', so all things equal I would've sided with Forsberg as a personal preference, but I also believe he was more impactful.
Just an FYI Crosby did lead the playoffs in scoring in 2008.
If ppg is the tie-breaker, yes.
If goals is the tie-breaker, no.
If winning the Cup is the tie-breaker, no.
If there is no tie-breaker, he tied for the lead.