News Article: Pete DeBoer could be next coach of the leafs

[thewave]

Difference is NJ overachieved and Toronto underachieved

Not really, they play a quality hockey game more often. They lost 11 shoot outs, if they won 6 they may be in the PO.

If you can't see this team plays crap as a TEAM, nothing anyone says will put you on the right track of recognition of the inherent flaws here.

 

[colchar]

As long as they win I dont think anyone cares how they do it

There are people here whining that they want entertaining hockey and at least one who has loudly claimed that he would rather be entertained than see them win with a boring style.

 

[Pyrophorus]

There are people here whining that they want entertaining hockey and at least one who has loudly claimed that he would rather be entertained than see them win with a boring style.

We should have had enough of this.
Win by any means possible

 

[colchar]

Here is a writeup on him:

http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2014/...ome-sense-as-the-maple-leafs-next-head-coach/

 

[Peasy]

So now that Dreger reports it everyone believes it

 

[Gallagbi]

Not really, they play a quality hockey game more often. They lost 11 shoot outs, if they won 6 they may be in the PO.

If you can't see this team plays crap as a TEAM, nothing anyone says will put you on the right track of recognition of the inherent flaws here.

You're basically making my point for me.

NJ overachieved based on expectations. The fact they came that close to the playoffs with that roster is a huge achievement.

The fact the Leafs blew-up like they did and finished where they have is a huge underachievement.

 

[thewave]

So now that Dreger reports it everyone believes it

Dregs reports every which way from day to day.

 

[TuckerFan1]

Don't know if hes ready to make the jump next season, but if the Leafs bring Carlyle back for one more brutal season, I wouldn't mind seeing DJ Smith get a look. He's coaching the Oshawa Generals right now and has done incredible things with them and the Spitfires before coming to the Gens. He should be considered for coach of the year again in the OHL, but will likely be overlooked due to the success in Guelph and Erie this year.

 

[Mess]

Not really, they play a quality hockey game more often. They lost 11 shoot outs, if they won 6 they may be in the PO.

If you can't see this team plays crap as a TEAM, nothing anyone says will put you on the right track of recognition of the inherent flaws here.

Leafs 9 SO wins verses 0 for NJ in 13 tries each. A +9 point differential Tor verses NJ.

Shootouts are circus time individual play and coaches are responsible for system and structure verses team play.

Corsi and others don't track SO results and shootouts are not a part of playoff hockey as they remove the foolishness that they represent because hockey is a team sport, not a skills competition best reserved for all-star games and entertainment.

That is why DeBoar is being praised for is coaching and Carlyle criticized for his. DeBoer NJ team in #1 in shots against and #1 on the PK while Carlyle team just established a new record in futility of most shots against in an NHL season with a PK and goals against near the bottom of the league.

SO results are not fooling anyone here.

 

[Durkin67]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/n...le-leafs--say-it-ain-t-so--lou-215805162.html

I think he would be a great fit. Good relationship with kadri and clarkson. Grew up in ontario, drafted by the leafs many years ago. He took the devils to the cup final with a very average roster and the devils had a better year than the leafs with a much worse roster.

Here's a thought: how about we concern ourselves with the personnel on the ice instead of who is holding the whiteboard.

This team has a collective heart problem, namely lack of same. No coach in history can make people care enough about winning to stop losing. Last game of the season and they cant even score one goal.

In the words of that guy on my son's stereo: I've seen chihuahuas thats more Rah-rah...

They don't care. Theyre too busy being celebrities...minus a few exceptions...

 

[Diatomic]

Difference is NJ overachieved and Toronto underachieved

In regards to advanced stats and stats in general, NJ underachieved and Toronto overachieved.

 

[realgoodleafs]

In regards to advanced stats and stats in general, NJ underachieved and Toronto overachieved.

Maybe if you assume the talent level is equal.

 

[Diatomic]

Maybe if you assume the talent level is equal.

a good system can make talentless teams look decent, and a terrible system can make talented teams look terrible

 

[ForSpareParts*]

So now that Dreger reports it everyone believes it

@DarrenDreger: As others have noted, I believe we can scratch Peter DeBoer's name off list of free agent coaches. Extension with NJD expected soon.

Yes.

This speculation had 'jump the gun' written all over it.

Close thread.

 

[Mess]

a good system can make talentless teams look decent, and a terrible system can make talented teams look terrible

Did anyone watch Latvia in the Olympics?.

 

[realgoodleafs]

a good system can make talentless teams look decent, and a terrible system can make talented teams look terrible

Yeah so you are wrong in saying that NJ underachieved. They managed to get great stats without a lot of talent.

 

[Wami]

It's really a shame, having Pete as our head coach would have truly exposed our roster... nobody could make an excuse for not blowing up the core if we saw more of the same under Pete

 

[Tak7]

Finally an end to this "story".

There was no way the Devils / Lou were going to let this guy leave their roster. Solid coach.

Still some options out there though, that are more realistic.

Trotz (no thanks)

Dineen (no thanks)

Boucher (possibly?)

Laviolette (likely?)

 

[HEAVY DUTY]

Finally an end to this "story".

There was no way the Devils / Lou were going to let this guy leave their roster. Solid coach.

Still some options out there though, that are more realistic.

Trotz (no thanks)

Dineen (no thanks)

Boucher (possibly?)

Laviolette (likely?)

seriously? personally, i really want trotz here. once he's fired, he'll be one of the most popular sought after Free Agent coaches out there.

 

[CerebralDevil]

Finally an end to this "story".

There was no way the Devils / Lou were going to let this guy leave their roster. Solid coach.

Still some options out there though, that are more realistic.

Trotz (no thanks)

Dineen (no thanks)

Boucher (possibly?)

Laviolette (likely?)

Really? The guy is a solid coach

 

[Lobstertainment]

Difference is NJ overachieved and Toronto underachieved

Except the opposite. We allowed more shots in a season than anyone else ever. That's not underachieving. We were overachieving for the whole season and then crashed back to reality at the end.

 

[Tak7]

seriously? personally, i really want trotz here. once he's fired, he'll be one of the most popular sought after Free Agent coaches out there.

Old school defensive coach that won't be a good fit with the current composition of this roster.

Don't care how popular he is around the league.

 

[Gallagbi]

Except the opposite. We allowed more shots in a season than anyone else ever. That's not underachieving. We were overachieving for the whole season and then crashed back to reality at the end.

Actually it is. A huge part of those shots against was Carlyle and his system.

The achievement statement is based on talent vs. On-ice performance, not Corsi standings.

 

[ScJeff]

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=449217

Thank god.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Shanahan and Spott have a connection, Spott and Deboer have a connection.

Interesting Nonis chose Spott as the Marlies coach…Perhaps he had an inkling Shanahan was always on Lieweke's hit list.

Seems too convenient to me.