GDT: Pens Vs Lightning

[Honour Over Glory]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1859000595417625081

"FSG has given Sullivan the hammer" - Remember that, "Danny"

 

[HandshakeLine]

danger zone.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I mean, it's clear that FSG loves Sully because the dipshit billionaires say stuff like "he's a top-3 coach in the sport" when the guy's, what, about to be seven years removed from a single playoff round win and staring down a third straight playoff miss?

But I think Dubas is equally enamored with Sullivan, so FSG's love for the dude is a moot point. Dubas would have to think this team needs a new coach before running any Sullivan firings by FSG, and I doubt that's even a thought that's legitimately crossed his mind yet.

In short, again: this sucks, man.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

lol

https://x.com/i/web/status/1858920818606014919

If he gets shelled again he should be banished from the league forever. I get tanking but it shouldn't be a clown show spectacle.

 

[canadianguy77]

I don’t know what Sullivan is doing. TJ is clearly finished as a Penguin and maybe even as an NHL goaltender.

 

[Andy99]

I mean, it's clear that FSG loves Sully because the dipshit billionaires say stuff like "he's a top-3 coach in the sport" when the guy's, what, about to be seven years removed from a single playoff round win and staring down a third straight playoff miss?

But I think Dubas is equally enamored with Sullivan, so FSG's love for the dude is a moot point. Dubas would have to think this team needs a new coach before running any Sullivan firings by FSG, and I doubt that's even a thought that's legitimately crossed his mind yet.

In short, again: this sucks, man.

I mean FSG aren’t hockey people… I’m sure they love Sullivan because everyone told him how great he was when they bought the team lol…if Dubas were to come to them and say he’s outstayed his welcome and we should can him, I’m sure they would

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I think whichever goalie is in net, especially against a team with offensive firepower like Tampa, is getting f***ing shelled. I'd rather it be a dork ass loser like Jarry who is what he is, than f*** with a kid like Blomqvist who might be around for the long haul and be in net when this team's ready to contend again in like 7 years.

 

[Sideline]

I don’t know what Sullivan is doing. TJ is clearly finished as a Penguin and maybe even as an NHL goaltender.

Maybe they're committed to tanking. Jarry is the right call for that plan.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I mean FSG aren’t hockey people… I’m sure they love Sullivan because everyone told him how great he was when they bought the team lol…if Dubas were to come to them and say he’s outstayed his welcome and we should can him, I’m sure they would

Hockey is not a hard game to figure out, and when you have a team losing more games than they are winning, it's not a good sign.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I mean, it's clear that FSG loves Sully because the dipshit billionaires say stuff like "he's a top-3 coach in the sport" when the guy's, what, about to be seven years removed from a single playoff round win and staring down a third straight playoff miss?

But I think Dubas is equally enamored with Sullivan, so FSG's love for the dude is a moot point. Dubas would have to think this team needs a new coach before running any Sullivan firings by FSG, and I doubt that's even a thought that's legitimately crossed his mind yet.

In short, again: this sucks, man.

"This is a wonderful day for the entire organization with Mike committing to remain as head coach for the long term with the Penguins," Henry said. "He has clearly demonstrated what an effective leader he is and it's evident how well players respond to his philosophy and work ethic night after night, month after month."

"We value the relationship we are developing with Mike and felt it was important to ensure that relationship would continue long term," Werner said. "He's one of the best coaches in the National Hockey League and we look forward to our continued collaboration with him and the entire Penguins organization to bring another Stanley Cup to Pittsburgh."

This was in April of 2023.

• “There are big changes coming for the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins moving forward, how they are operated and Pittsburgh’s overall presence around the team, including a much-needed increase in their day-to-day on-site involvement.”

• “Fenway Sports Group (FSG) has been working closely with Penguins head coach Mike Sullivan during the Pittsburgh Penguins transition between former GM Ron Hextall and whoever they hire to fill their current vacancy.

“Relative to the AHL club, I’m told FSG will mandate to their new GM that this AHL Penguins club needs to be highly competitive — on the persistent advice from Sullivan, specifically, in making sure the organization’s top prospects are developing in a winning environment.”

• “It might come as a surprise that Sullivan is so adamant about building/investing more in constructing an AHL roster as he has taken flack for barely giving the AHL Penguins’ call-ups — and young players like Jonathan Gruden — much of an opportunity in terms of ice time.

“‘This is a (Sullivan) thing more than whoever the new (GM) is, … and right now (Sullivan) has the hammer with the Fenway guys,’ one NHL source told InsideAHLHockey.com a few weeks ago.”

Tim Benz: Making sense of Mike Sullivan's reported AHL action plan for the Penguins' new GM

A Pittsburgh Penguins-related item we dropped into “First Call” last week has really stayed with me through the weekend. Tony Androckitis of Inside AHL Hockey posted these notes about the Penguins on both the NHL level in Pittsburgh and the AHL level in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. • “There are big...

triblive.com

May 2023.

Yeah Danny, you dumb twat, there's nothing that says...oh wait.

When FSG bought the Penguins, they made it a point to prioritize Sullivan and his standing in the organization.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins/pens-talk/fenway-sports-group-mike-sullivan-pittsburgh-penguins-head-coach

It's been well known for a while.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I mean FSG aren’t hockey people… I’m sure they love Sullivan because everyone told him how great he was when they bought the team lol…if Dubas were to come to them and say he’s outstayed his welcome and we should can him, I’m sure they would

Yeah, I think if push came to shove and Dubas told them Sully needed to be fired, FSG would let it happen. The ongoing issue, and I've been saying this since he took the job, is that Dubas still doesn't think Sullivan needs to be fired.

It's a fun mix of dysfunction and incompetence!

Experience Penguins hockey™

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Go look at the shit Burke and Hextall said about Sullivan and then what Kyle said about Sullivan and if you lot can't tell that's a Penguins PR drafted up statement these blokes had to make because FSG wanted them to, you're clueless.

It's the same shit regurgitated by 3 different Penguins execs.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I mean, it's clear that FSG loves Sully because the dipshit billionaires say stuff like "he's a top-3 coach in the sport" when the guy's, what, about to be seven years removed from a single playoff round win and staring down a third straight playoff miss?

But I think Dubas is equally enamored with Sullivan, so FSG's love for the dude is a moot point. Dubas would have to think this team needs a new coach before running any Sullivan firings by FSG, and I doubt that's even a thought that's legitimately crossed his mind yet.

In short, again: this sucks, man.

FSG reminds me of that friend who doesn't really follow a sport, but likes to offer an opinion on how good a player in that sport is by naming a random stat that player happened to lead the league in one time.

"I think that so and so is the best player in the league because he was top 5 in touchdowns that one season", ignoring the fact that season was an anomaly, the team he played on was absolutely stacked, he was only playing because the starter got injured for the season, and the QB throwing him the ball was one of the GOATs.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Go look at the shit Burke and Hextall said about Sullivan and then what Kyle said about Sullivan and if you lot can't tell that's a Penguins PR drafted up statement these blokes had to make because FSG wanted them to, you're clueless.

It's the same shit regurgitated by 3 different Penguins execs.

The only common denominator, is, those guys keep leaving, Sully keeps staying

HMMMMM

Wonder why...

 

[HandshakeLine]

FSG reminds me of that friend who doesn't really follow a sport, but likes to offer an opinion on how good a player in that sport is by naming a random stat that player happened to lead the league in one time.

"I think that so and so is the best player in the league because he was top 5 in touchdowns that one season", ignoring the fact that season was an anomaly, the team he played on was absolutely stacked, he was only playing because the starter got injured for the season, and the QB throwing him the ball was one of the GOATs.

It's really hard to learn about the sport that the team you spent almost 1 billion dollars buying plays. Especially since it's a sport designed by degenerate Canadian hicks and followed by millions of idiots in Europe and NA.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Exact same lineup as last game except for the starting goalie.

He hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire, but I don't get Sully's usage of Puustinen. He's a one of the most creative forwards on a team that hasn't been scoring much.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

‘We won a division for God's sake’: Brian Burke defends Tristan Jarry, Mike Sullivan, core 3 and 'Penguins DNA'

Pittsburgh Penguins president of hockey operations Brian Burke hears the fans and media members who are voicing frustration and calling for change. Speaking on 105.9 The X on Thursday afternoon, Burke offered a straightforward reminder about the 2021 East Division champions. “We won a division...

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Sullivan ‘right person’ to coach Penguins despite slow start, GM says | NHL.com

Dubas also patient with players, won’t rush into trades during 1st season with Pittsburgh

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Look at this shit, it's like Sullivan propaganda.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

FSG reminds me of that friend who doesn't really follow a sport, but likes to offer an opinion on how good a player in that sport is by naming a random stat that player happened to lead the league in one time.

"I think that so and so is the best player in the league because he was top 5 in touchdowns that one season", ignoring the fact that season was an anomaly, the team he played on was absolutely stacked, he was only playing because the starter got injured for the season, and the QB throwing him the ball was one of the GOATs.

Dumb as your average billionaires.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Exact same lineup as last game except for the starting goalie.

He hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire, but I don't get Sully's usage of Puustinen. He's a one of the most creative forwards on a team that hasn't been scoring much.

He's using Puusty in the worst usage and expecting him to do shit, it's idiotic. Either sit him and play the plug you want to see do pluggish shit or waive or trade him already. Same for Puljujarvi, just an epic waste of good players being used like trash.

Jarry's starting this one so thankfully the game should be over in the first 10 mins or so

The game is usually over the moment Mike Sullivan walks out and stands behind the bench.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Confidential to the Salary Cap thread: stifling defense schemes suck and the only people who like them are people with trash taste in entertainment.

rhetorical you, a defense loving pervert: "bring back the steel curtain, i love 1-0 no-event hockey where the only goal is a fluke deflection 10 minutes into the 3rd period!"

me:

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

I wish Matt Berry was coaching this team.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

If FSG had an issue, they'd have Dubas fire Sullivan.

If Dubas didn't, they would fire Dubas and Sullivan, themselves.

Therefore, logic dictates, FSG does not want that to happen.

These decisions aren't merely up to the GM. Otherwise, Letang would be traded and GMJR would still be here.

But whatever... Must be only up to Dubas, this time.

Mario and Co blocked the Letang one and likely should have sit down and shut the f*** up and let JR do his f***ing job. JR was being told no a lot for ways to get the Pens younger and was being blocked and so he realized ok if this is the way they want to do it, that this coach gets his way and they pander to the core, then I'm out.

I think Hextall did want to fire Mike Sullivan and Mike Sullivan knew that he did. Because the way Mike went over Ron's head to speak to FSG directly for his extension to me speaks volumes, if you are that respected, a GM would sign you, but the fact that you had to weasel your way behind the GM and Burke to speak to FSG directly to extend your contract when you're in the middle of an extension already, that's some shady shit. I always felt Ron was fired because he wanted to fire Sullivan.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Confidential to the Salary Cap thread: stifling defense schemes suck and the only people who like them are people with trash taste in entertainment.

It's a good trick to have in your pocket but as a philosophy I feel like it hasn't been successful in 20odd years barring some exceptions here and there.

It seems like the only people advocating for it are like... meatheads and old school fans of both hockey and football who haven't really kept up with either sport much the last two decade aside from getting hammered on Busch Light and yelling "LOCK IT DAHN!" at the TV every game.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I wish Matt Berry was coaching this team.

Here's Matt's best Mike Sullivan impersonation.

Here's Matt Berry meeting FSG..

 

[SEALBound]

This was in April of 2023.

Tim Benz: Making sense of Mike Sullivan's reported AHL action plan for the Penguins' new GM

A Pittsburgh Penguins-related item we dropped into “First Call” last week has really stayed with me through the weekend. Tony Androckitis of Inside AHL Hockey posted these notes about the Penguins on both the NHL level in Pittsburgh and the AHL level in Wilkes-Barre/Scranton. • “There are big...

triblive.com

May 2023.

Yeah Danny, you dumb twat, there's nothing that says...oh wait.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/pittsburgh-penguins/pens-talk/fenway-sports-group-mike-sullivan-pittsburgh-penguins-head-coach

It's been well known for a while.

Press releases are not proof. They are always over the top gushes about whoever they are talking about.