Post-Game Talk: | Pens vs Caps |OT loss| Kap sucks

[Ryder71]

Stop being so rational. Puck go in too much! Jarry bad!

Are you seriously watching these games? Is it impossible for you to find fault with him or something? He's been bad of late. Period!

 

[dogthateats]

You may watch the same games as me, but I watch them in a far deeper and more intellectual way than you ever will.

 

[Ryder71]

Whinging about the goalie is such basic fandom.

I don't watch hockey to put it all down to the creepy dude in all the pads. Nor are we a team built around a Superstar goalie like Hasek or Lundqvist. If my team outplays the opponent and loses, then I'll blame the goalie. We didn't outplay the Caps here, though we got some favorable reffing.

Completely disagree with all of this. We had more zone time and better quality scoring chances than the Caps did.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Completely disagree with all of this. We had more zone time and better quality scoring chances than the Caps did.

Name a chance the Geno line had at ES. Like, a real one.

 

[vodeni]

Kapanen is going to take the heat, and didn't do anything not to deserve it, but Orlov completely embarrassed Crosby on that goal.

mu beef on that goal is that he lost the puck prior to that for no reason and than instead of changing, skated back...I don't think he has much upstairs

 

[Ryder71]

Name a chance the Geno line had at ES. Like, a real one.

Sids line had five or six, that's more than the Caps entire team. The ice was tilted in the Caps end for a large portion of the game.

 

[Ryder71]

Amazing that people can't see Jarrys play has been sub par of late. Absolutely amazing.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Sids line had five or six, that's more than the Caps entire team. The ice was tilted in the Caps end for a large portion of the game.

The goalie got beaten pretty decidedly on the Malkin goal and the 1st Rust goal, did he not? Like, the other goalie(s) made a bad?

It's nice that the guy stopped Sid's line at ES but that's also on Sid's line.

 

[vodeni]

Also saw that Zohorna didn’t really play in the 3rd. ZAR is better I guess. What does he have this season? 1 f***ing goal? Lol.

his best game of the season, low bar but first time in a long time he resembled an NHL player

 

[Ryder71]

The goalie got beaten pretty decidedly on the Malkin goal and the 1st Rust goal, did he not? Like, the other goalie(s) made a bad?

It's nice that the guy stopped Sid's line at ES but that's also on Sid's line.

You don't think Samsonov outplayed Jarry tonight?

 

[vodeni]

I would say Jarry did not play well.

This one was easy to call.

Penguins did their shoot a million shots but not finish thing like they do when they are in bad mode.

They have no even strength scoring and do not even look like they threaten really. Their shots were low danger most of the time.

Things will not get better until they revert back to some semblance of how they played during ten game win streak. Today was getting closer to that, but they still will be a first round exit with this effort.

Jarry was Ok not great but OK, did not lose the game. Caps with 10 HDCF he came up with 6 saves. he needs to get back to 80% for us to have a chance to win when we give up 10 HDCF

 

[Ryder71]

You may watch the same games as me, but I watch them in a far deeper and more intellectual way than you ever will.

If you don't find fault with Jarrys performances of late then clearly that's not the case at all. While many players play has dropped up, excusing Jarry is clearly a very naive take.

 

[ChaosAgent]

You don't think Samsonov outplayed Jarry tonight?

Marginally, yes. If Sid elevates his semi-breakaway it could be a different story.

Complaining about goalies is terribly, terribly boring. And in this case the team can't realistically do anything about it. Jarry is too good to replace but maybe not good enough to be trusted. Still, you realize that with an average performance from him this season we are 10 points lower in the standings?

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Pens can't score at 5on5 any more. I think the Pens have like 1 or 2 goals in the past 4 games at even strength.

That's brutal.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Now I wish the pens would of protect McCann over Kappy for the expansion draft to Seattle.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Sids line had five or six, that's more than the Caps entire team. The ice was tilted in the Caps end for a large portion of the game.

Penguins dominated shots and possession - though the Capitals had a slight edge in the third.

However, the high danger opportunities were even.

Washington Capitals @ Pittsburgh Penguins, 2022-02-01

 

[Ryder71]

Marginally, yes. If Sid elevates his semi-breakaway it could be a different story.

Complaining about goalies is terribly, terribly boring. And in this case the team can't realistically do anything about it. Jarry is too good to replace but maybe not good enough to be trusted. Still, you realize that with an average performance from him this season we are 10 points lower in the standings?

He's played exceptionally well the majority of the season. No question, but lately he's been well below average. His goals against and save percentage reflect that. That doesn't excuse letang or Geno turning pucks over in the middle of the ice and feeding the oppositions transition game, but Jarry has also slipped. Not sure how anyone can truthfully suggest otherwise.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

We didn’t even look bad, Caps were more opportunistic.

I think this skid before a break could be a blessing in disguise. Time to focus on ourselves and come out of the week off hungry. I’ll only hit worry mode if they don’t.

 

[dogthateats]

If you don't find fault with Jarrys performances of late then clearly that's not the case at all. While many players play has dropped up, excusing Jarry is clearly a very naive take.

When did I say that or even imply it? Please cite specific examples. Thank you

 

[Ryder71]

Penguins dominated shots and possession - though the Capitals had a slight edge in the third.

However, the high danger opportunities were even.

Washington Capitals @ Pittsburgh Penguins, 2022-02-01

So if they're even then the goalie did indeed make the difference then.

 

[ChaosAgent]

He's played exceptionally well the majority of the season. No question, but lately he's been well below average. His goals against and save percentage reflect that. That doesn't excuse letang or Geno turning pucks over in the middle of the ice and feeding the oppositions transition game, but Jarry has also slipped. Not sure how anyone can truthfully suggest otherwise.

He has slipped in the last 2 weeks. 100%.

I just don't care frankly. Not while the team aside from one line is anemic at even strength. I watch hockey for the skaters, not for the goalies. I get little enjoyment out of that part of the game. Maybe if I grew up as a Hasek fan I'd almost root for the other teams to pour it on so that he could keep bailing my team out and adding to his legacy. But my baseline expectation for a Pens team in this era is to have better chances than their opponent and entertain me. If the skaters are doing that and the goalie is sh1tting the bed, fine I'll blame the goalie. That isn't happening now.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

At the risk of giving people a heart attack, I'm going to look at things positively for a moment.

Yes, we've lost 4 in a row and in 3 of them looked pretty ass for a lot of the games. However, if you're going to slump and "lose" games at the very least take them to OT. And the Pens were able to get 3 points in 4 of those losses, which helps a lot more in the standings than if the Pens had outright lost 4 straight in regulation.

But seriously, fix the 5on5 scoring shit. It's pathetic.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

People also overlook we pay him 3.5M a year and have gotten insane value this year. If he were making Vasi money then hell ya I'd be holding him to a super high standard nightly.

If your team is shit your goalie will get hung out to dry. It's really basic.

Jarry has had 3 games where he's been shelled in one of them pretty decidedly and the other 2 where his defense again was doing him zero favours.

That shit is not acceptable even if we had MVP Hasek in net.

 

[ronduguayshair]

Name a chance the Geno line had at ES. Like, a real one.

line two sucks. third goal was pathetic effort on the forecheck by #71.

If no one works with #71 shouldn't be to blame?

 

[Flying Dego]

He has slipped in the last 2 weeks. 100%.

I just don't care frankly. Not while the team aside from one line is anemic at even strength. I watch hockey for the skaters, not for the goalies. I get little enjoyment out of that part of the game. Maybe if I grew up as a Hasek fan I'd almost root for the other teams to pour it on so that he could keep bailing my team out and adding to his legacy. But my baseline expectation for a Pens team in this era is to have better chances than their opponent and entertain me. If the skaters are doing that and the goalie is sh1tting the bed, fine I'll blame the goalie. That isn't happening now.

100% correct