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Salary Cap: Pens 2024 Summer Thread: "Thus, knocking us out of these superior numbers when we emerge! Mr. President, we must not allow a non-playoff bound gap!"

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Dipsy Doodle said:
Even in an abbrebiated season, Nichushkin scored 28 goals, 53 points, and had 9 goals in the playoffs, all while being an outstanding skater and playing great defense.

Are people going to argue that isn't worth this team taking a chance on at 6.1 mil per? When we're paying Rakell and Smith 5 mil per to do whatever it is they're doing?
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So why wouldn't McFarland just get what he can out of him? He certainly isn't going to get anything approaching fair market value in return. And if he's "clean", who says he produces like he has?
 
Ulf5 said:
So why wouldn't McFarland just get what he can out of him? He certainly isn't going to get anything approaching fair market value in return. And if he's "clean", who says he produces like he has?
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He still might. But sometimes players simply run out of rope with an org and lose trust. Seems like Nuke is at that point.

A big swing on an established dynamic playoff performer like Nichushkin seems like a lot better idea than nibbling around the edges for this team. Take the "player assistance" aspect out of the equation, and Nichushkin would be a perfect player for this roster. In terms of impact, he's like Guentzel - if Guentzel was 6'4", a fantastic skater, and great defensively.

Posters here would have given their eye teeth for him last week, even with his history. Now he's not worth considering for zero assets?
 
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Seems simple enough. Dubas has to remake the Pens into a balanced team in size, grit and style of play. In the end, the idea of adding a Stephenson and third line RW who brings that and moving Smith off the books to add is the goal here. Pens with a couple smart moves can be a team/roster that does bring needed size speed and some youth to the mix. Sullivan is back but my guess is Dubas will want the sullivan smurf stuff to end.
 
bringing in Ehlers, moving Rakell and Smith, and adding youth would be great

Ehlers-Sid-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-prospect/FA
DOC-Pomomarev-Puus
Poulin-Eller-Acciari

Petts-EK
FA/POJ-Letang
Graves-FA/St.Ivany

goalie will be interesting. Do you try to swing a deal for Ullmark or go with 2 new FAs with the idea Blomqvist pushes after the new year?

Talbot
Stolarz
Ned (if the number is right)
Reimer
Lankinen
Driedger
Hellberg

I know that’s an underwhelming list but if they cheaped out and went with 2 of the above while getting out of Jarry I wouldn’t mind tbh.
 
Dipsy Doodle said:
He still might. But sometimes players simply run out of rope with an org and lose trust. Seems like Nuke is at that point.

A big swing on an established dynamic playoff performer like Nichushkin seems like a lot better idea than nibbling around the edges for this team. Take the "player assistance" aspect out of the equation, and Nichushkin would be a perfect player for this roster. In terms of impact, he's like Guentzel - if Guentzel was 6'4", a fantastic skater, and great defensively.

Posters here would have given their eye teeth for him last week, even with his history. Now he's not worth considering for zero assets?
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Nichushkin would be a home run for this org.

Alleged coke fiend and all. Tell him it’s Ok to start doing that in the second round again next year (since Pens season will surely have wrapped up by then).
 
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I imagine every team has at least one guy who's a cokehead. Unfortunate for the ones that get caught though. Sorta like how I assume every ref is a petulant shitbag who holds personal grudges, but Tim Peel's the only one who's been caught on mic, so he got the hammer brought down on him.
 
Dipsy Doodle said:
He still might. But sometimes players simply run out of rope with an org and lose trust. Seems like Nuke is at that point.

A big swing on an established dynamic playoff performer like Nichushkin seems like a lot better idea than nibbling around the edges for this team. Take the "player assistance" aspect out of the equation, and Nichushkin would be a perfect player for this roster. In terms of impact, he's like Guentzel - if Guentzel was 6'4", a fantastic skater, and great defensively.

Posters here would have given their eye teeth for him last week, even with his history. Now he's not worth considering for zero assets?
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He would be a distraction, and when he hits stage 4 the Pens would be without a star player and whatever they put out to land him leaving a big hole they can't fill.
 
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This level of addiction is not going away soon. Someone who is willing to risk his career is not a player or person you want anything to do with. The classic bring him in and our players and organization can get him straight. Neve happens. He needs to kick this and even then, there exists a possibility of readdiction.
 
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Nichushkin re-found his game at around 25 after a couple years as a bottom-6 guy in Colorado making peanuts. So we should be looking at 99-01 birth year players that at some point in the past showed not just promise but actual production at a high level, though maybe not the NHL yet, and for one reason or another aren't in demand currently. But we need fixable issues as well, like just not given a real opportunity or maybe an injury or two side-tracked their development.

Forsling is in the same category. A once good prospect, pulled off the scrap-heap for cheap, didn't really break out immediately but has in the last 3 years, at around 25.
 
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Nichuskin can't even keep his head straight for playoff hockey. I can't see his issues improving here.
 
Jacob said:
Nichushkin re-found his game at around 25 after a couple years as a bottom-6 guy in Colorado making peanuts. So we should be looking at 99-01 birth year players that at some point in the past showed not just promise but actual production at a high level, though maybe not the NHL yet, and for one reason or another aren't in demand currently. But we need fixable issues as well, like just not given a real opportunity or maybe an injury or two side-tracked their development.

Forsling is in the same category. A once good prospect, pulled off the scrap-heap for cheap, didn't really break out immediately but has in the last 3 years, at around 25.
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Ryan Poehling?

Ty Smith?
 
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I'd actually take ERod back in a heartbeat. Shit... I never really wanted him to go. The only time he ever irritated me was when the coach tried him on Crosby's RW for some reason for a little too long. He was fine when he was here and has done even better since he left. ERod and Eller as your bottom six centers for like 5-6M total would be pretty OK.
 
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