Proposal: Penguins sell-off trades (Canucks, Avalanche, Kings and Predators)

Toby Flenderson

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First 3 deals sure. Definitely not to #4. Letang is worth more to the franchise and the locker room than that measly return.

I also don’t buy Dubas’s BS about “everyone but Sid is available”. No way he trades Malkin or Letang. They are lifers.

Trading away either Malkin or Letang would certainly piss off Sid. And if Dubas asked his opinion first the answer I’m guessing would be NO
 

HockeyVirus

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First 3 deals sure. Definitely not to #4. Letang is worth more to the franchise and the locker room than that measly return.

I also don’t buy Dubas’s BS about “everyone but Sid is available”. No way he trades Malkin or Letang. They are lifers.

Trading away either Malkin or Letang would certainly piss off Sid. And if Dubas asked his opinion first the answer I’m guessing would be NO

trading Letang is like the Sharks trading Karlsson. Pretty obvious the wheels are about to come off, they would be smart to trade him at his value because it will only go down hill from here. If they can get an asset back without retaining they should do it even if it is a 7th
 

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As an Avs fan, I’d probably just want to a deal around DOC. He’d be a useful addition. Especially if Landeskog’s return doesn’t go as hoped.

If Nedeljkovic is playing good as the deadline approaches and if the Avs have no other great options, he could be interesting as a veteran platoon guy they can also bring back next season (similar to what the Devils did grabbing Allen last TDL). But Georgiev has stabilized enough to be fine for now. No Avs fan trusts him when it matters, but until a real “1A” solution presents itself, I don’t think assets should be spent going towards “meh” solutions…it just takes ammo out of the cupboard for other options.
 

JoeSakic13

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The Avs deal is a fair trade in value, but I feel l (or at least hope) Colorado would go for a bigger trade target if they were looking to grab a goalie at this point.

They’re turning to Georgie (currently) again as their starter and Annunen has shown he can hold his own as well. So if they make a change (which IMO they should) I can see it being for a game breaker netminder. Nedel is a solid netminder, but he’s too close to a lateral upgrade at this point.
 
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trading Letang is like the Sharks trading Karlsson. Pretty obvious the wheels are about to come off, they would be smart to trade him at his value because it will only go down hill from here. If they can get an asset back without retaining they should do it even if it is a 7th
Yeah, trade a franchise icon who had loads of success here for a 7th just because. They're not gonna need that cap space within 3 years, let them f***ing ride off in peace
 

HockeyVirus

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Yeah, trade a franchise icon who had loads of success here for a 7th just because. They're not gonna need that cap space within 3 years, let them f***ing ride off in peace

Well are you keeping them to ride off into the sunset or trying to trade them? This is a thread about selling off pieces with the rumors of a firesale.

Letang is already a cap dump and has several years left. He is going to be unmoveable. That is why you get rid of him now if you are going to do it. If you want to parade his corpse around another few years for nostalgia and to honor him for the cups won, be my guest. But from an asset value standpoint, shit or get off the pot you know?
 

Empoleon8771

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Lmao...


He's 28 years old and has 150 starts. Only 1 year in his entire career has he been an actual starting goalie, and he put up well below average numbers.


He's awful. Georgiev is also awful and I f***ing hate him, but I will glady take my changes on him finding his game over paying a 2nd round pick for another pile of garbage. At least Georgiev actually has multiple years of legitimate starters workloads and even has one strong statistical season as a starting goalie.


As for O'Connor. We dont need him. We have plenty of cheap depth with a number of guys showing they can contribute positively during the start of this year. Especially when it comes to wingers, that's the last thing we need.

And this somehow doesn't apply to Georgiyev?

If you want to argue that Nedjelkovic is just more of a platoon guy, you won't have much disagreement from anyone, but Georgiyev sucks ass and even Nedjelkovic being a 1B goalie is an upgrade on him.

Well are you keeping them to ride off into the sunset or trying to trade them? This is a thread about selling off pieces with the rumors of a firesale.

Letang is already a cap dump and has several years left. He is going to be unmoveable. That is why you get rid of him now if you are going to do it. If you want to parade his corpse around another few years for nostalgia and to honor him for the cups won, be my guest. But from an asset value standpoint, shit or get off the pot you know?

If that's the case they would just keep him then.

They're already going to be trading Karlsson next off-season I bet, so keeping Letang to be a mentor for the young defensemen (namely Pickering and Brunicke, plus Pettersson in this hypothetical deal) would make more sense than trading him for the sake of trading him.

I know I'm the one who made the proposals but I'd walk that Letang one back. Since EK is almost assuredly gone sometime next off-season or next season, I think keeping Letang to be a mentor for the young guys would make more sense.
 

Empoleon8771

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The Avs deal is a fair trade in value, but I feel l (or at least hope) Colorado would go for a bigger trade target if they were looking to grab a goalie at this point.

They’re turning to Georgie (currently) again as their starter and Annunen has shown he can hold his own as well. So if they make a change (which IMO they should) I can see it being for a game breaker netminder. Nedel is a solid netminder, but he’s too close to a lateral upgrade at this point.

I think this is totally a fair interpretation. Ned is a 1B goalie that is likely an upgrade on Georgiyev but not really one you can ride to a cup. I think Nedjelkovic as a platoon goalie for someone like Edmonton with Skinner would make more sense with that.
 

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Not to be picky because this is a win win deal for both, but D Petey is already playing in the AHL and has the size/snarl we will lack in the future.

Id prefer to offer Sawyer Mynio in his place.

Mynio, Desharnais, 2nd
For
Pettersson @ 50%

And then Canucks still have their 1st and Hoglander for a later trade.
That shit is not getting you the best dmen on the market lmao, make that 2nd a 1st
 

HockeyVirus

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If that's the case they would just keep him then.

They're already going to be trading Karlsson next off-season I bet, so keeping Letang to be a mentor for the young defensemen (namely Pickering and Brunicke, plus Pettersson in this hypothetical deal) would make more sense than trading him for the sake of trading him.

I know I'm the one who made the proposals but I'd walk that Letang one back. Since EK is almost assuredly gone sometime next off-season or next season, I think keeping Letang to be a mentor for the young guys would make more sense.
Wouldn't it make more sense to trade the 38 year old not the 33 year old?
 

Empoleon8771

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Wouldn't it make more sense to trade the 38 year old not the 33 year old?

You'd get way more for Karlsson than you would for Letang IMO. Also Karlsson doesn't have the connection to the team that Letang has.

I think if the Penguins retain Karlsson down to a $6.1 million AAV (Letang's current cap hit), they'd get some decent futures for him. I'm skeptical they'd bring back a 1st but maybe a 2nd and a prospect or two. But Letang? I'm honestly unsure if he even has positive value, which is why I noted the proposal in the OP was a super aggressive ask from the Predators.

The comparable to Letang is Brent Burns, who was moved for a 3rd and scraps with 3 years and $5.25 million left on his deal.
 

Porter Stoutheart

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Trade 4:

Penguins trade Letang
Predators trade Carrier and a 2025 3rd

Think this one may be too aggressive of an ask from the Predators, but Letang adds another legitimate OFD thread from their blueline behind Josi. Penguins get a worse but younger RD to replace Letang and more futures.

I think this one is a long-shot due to Nashville's struggles to start this year, but I doubt they'd just throw in the towel after signing Stamkos and Marchessault last year. They also have 3 1sts this year, so I could see them being willing to sacrifice some futures to get better now.
Hm, I’d consider giving you the 3rd if you’ll take Carrier? But I don’t want Letang back. :sarcasm:

I would have more interest in Pettersson for the Preds actually.
 

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1-3 are realistic trades with likely returns. I'd do any or all of them.

The 4th one though is a little tougher for me to see.
 

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