News Article: Penguins Sale Possible This Week

KIRK

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I hope these owners aren’t more interested in the property around the arena more so than the team itself.

Do they want to be property developers that happen to have a team or a team that also has property near the arena?

Pretty sure a franchise ownership group looking to add a NHL team to its portfolio didn't pay 845 million for the property next to the arena.
 

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Hello. Bruins and Red Sox fan here just popping in. Just wanted to give you guys the heads up and say you should be cautiously pessimistic about John Henry buying the majority stake in your team. He may have interest in your team initially, but eventually Henry will be bored and sees any team as nothing more than another asset as part of an Excel spreadsheet investment portfolio. He will try to find a way to cut costs and look for efficiency and pump more money into a metrics data department and analytics than actual players. He also will make the production values of your local sports network look god awful and feel you are stuck a decade behind. One merely has to look at highlights of NESN to see how God awful and poorly funded as a network by someone who doesn't care about anything than bottom lines.

Other than that...have fun!
 

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Pretty sure a franchise ownership group looking to add a NHL team to its portfolio didn't pay 845 million for the property next to the arena.
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Pens invested more than a billion into the new FNB headquarters/concert venue. These owners want to replicate what they did in Boston.
 

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My only ask of FSG is for them to place the arena where it should have gone. Upper lots of the Igloo.

I actually hate it's placing, hiding it's most notable features....

You could easily convert PPG into a mall.:naughty:
 
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Yeah, please don't think one delusional Sox fan with a provably false agenda speaks for the entire fanbase. John Henry turned the Sox into MLB's most successful team. All while consistently having one of MLB's highest payrolls. As a Bruins fan I'm pissed FSG is buying the Penguins cause Henry wins everywhere he goes.

I only watch hockey so I got no clue about other sports. I am 1 dimensional that way. Hopefully you're right.
 

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Yeah, please don't think one delusional Sox fan with a provably false agenda speaks for the entire fanbase. John Henry turned the Sox into MLB's most successful team. All while consistently having one of MLB's highest payrolls. As a Bruins fan I'm pissed FSG is buying the Penguins cause Henry wins everywhere he goes.

That's why there's such a disconnect for me. I just can't see how an ownership group that's brought championships to a city could possibly be "bad".

The way folks were talking, you'd think they were like the Pirates' ownership.
 

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That's why there's such a disconnect for me. I just can't see how an ownership group that's brought championships to a city could possibly be "bad".

The way folks were talking, you'd think they were like the Pirates' ownership.

It's f***ing absurd. Sometimes ownership does tone deaf things. And in two decades they've surely had some royal f***ups.

But you're hearing from a minority of fans who are only happy if they're miserable. Since John Henry bought the Sox they are easily the best team in baseball. The record stands for itself.
 

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That's why there's such a disconnect for me. I just can't see how an ownership group that's brought championships to a city could possibly be "bad".

The way folks were talking, you'd think they were like the Pirates' ownership.

And it's not like it was a fluke win. They've won 4 championships with different cores in 20 years.
 
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I love the progression of this thread. :laugh: The initial wave of nay-saying, doomsday forecasting Bostonians perfectly matched the glum vibes many have about the franchise's future in recent weeks. And then, after a few pages of digging into the details, the collective mood shifts to "Wait, you mean he runs his teams like a tight ship, looks at all the angles, and employs analytics to get the best value for his money?" That is considered a feature, not a bug around here, my friends. Welcome to the country club.

But this tidbit from page 1 bothered me, and I dont think my brain can let it drop that easily:

Case in point, they traded away 25 year old MVP Mookie Betts because of his salary.

Mookie Betts was 27 years and 5 months when the Sox traded him to LA, not 25. At 25 he was helping them to another World Series.

I can sympathize with the gripe of "dont let our best player go" but rather than give him an eye-watering mega deal or let him hit FA, the Sox cut bait and got several young guys back (one of whom helped them reach the ALCS this year). And while I'm sure the Dodgers arent regretting the trade, with a WS title in their pocket, Betts has clearly regressed since his best years in Boston. And is owed another 300 million over the next decade. The Sox also paid 50% of the Salary owed to David Price in the deal (by my count 48 million) to make the deal happen. So we aint talking about Eugene Melnyk here

If that is penny pinching and cheaping out, then it looks like a pretty damn clever version of it. They sold a good player at his absolute apex, got talent in return, and managed to package a bad contract with retention in the same deal. And two seasons later their team is right back where they were in 2019.
 
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Green Knight really sucked.
Woof, yeah. I admit to being intrigued by that one. But only in that it seemed so unconventional.

On the flipside, "Locke", "Under the Skin", and "A Most Violent Year" are movies I've seen a while ago but I still think about scenes or lines from years later. On their highly acclaimed ones, I thought "Moonlight" and "Ex Machina" really delivered. Maybe less so with "Ladybird" and "First Cow" (though I did enjoy the latter on a basic level). I've also been meaning to check out "Minari"
 
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