Confirmed with Link: Penguins and Mike Sullivan part ways

if you have the speed to make his concepts work, yes. People are giving you a lot of snarky comments, because we're like one day into a 4-month-long pissing on his grave, so we're not in the mood to talk him up, but if your personnel can run his system, you'll be successful. If they can't, you'll be the Penguins.

Selfishly, I hope you can't, because we NEED McKenna. It's been 20 years since we've drafted a generational player.

I think this is very fair but to be clear I'm not JUST being snarky... I think Sullivan would be a poor fit there and is going to prove to be a mediocre to bad coach in general over the course of the next several years.

The dude has been living off his past accomplishments a LONG time, now.
 
I think this is very fair but to be clear I'm not JUST being snarky... I think Sullivan would be a poor fit there and is going to prove to be a mediocre to bad coach in general over the course of the next several years.

The dude has been living off his past accomplishments a LONG time, now.
but those accomplishments came off real good work.

He was also done in, like Bylsma, by some atrocious goalie play, which makes his later years look a bit worse than they actually were (i'm not talking about the last 3 years, some of Jarry's collapses before that)
 
I think this is very fair but to be clear I'm not JUST being snarky... I think Sullivan would be a poor fit there and is going to prove to be a mediocre to bad coach in general over the course of the next several years.
He lost the plot as of late. So dumb to not fire him after 2023.

But past the b2b I always will give him kudos for how good this team was when we had those stretches when we got slaughtered with injuries to the top guys. And it’s not like we had super teams outside of 87/71/58.

I think all coaches have a shelf life and ultimately aren’t super important but overall I think he’s one of the not-bad ones.
 
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but those accomplishments came off real good work.

He was also done in, like Bylsma, by some atrocious goalie play, which makes his later years look a bit worse than they actually were (i'm not talking about the last 3 years, some of Jarry's collapses before that)
He lost the plot as of late. So dumb to not fire him after 2023.

But past the b2b I always will give him kudos for how good this team was when we had those stretches when we got slaughtered with injuries to the top guys. And it’s not like we had super teams outside of 87/71/58.

I think all coaches have a shelf life and ultimately aren’t super important but overall I think he’s one of the not-bad ones.

I could well be wrong and he goes on to have a new renaissance like Fleury or something but like... why didn't we see any of that, here? At least not since back then?

I will never take what Sullivan did in 16 and 17 away from him. He DID do legit good work then... called up and played the right players... pushed the right buttons. And he's had fits and starts of some sound decision making and runs on occasion where he has managed to make chicken salad outta chicken shit but like... don't those seem AWFULLY far and few between since those B2B Cups? I just feel like there is every bit as good a chance or better that the MAJORITY of his time here is more indicative of the type of coach/person he is than those two years. That he was simply right place right time and made all the right moves when given that opportunity.

Something DID change, though... after that second Cup. So there is a chance that he finds THAT guy again I suppose. But I just wouldn't bet on it I guess?
 
I am gonna laugh really hard if Sully's first act as a coach somewhere is to ask the GM to pay any price to land Bryan Rust.
It would fantastic to loot the NYR even further!
I am literally laughing myself into a hospital over this whole thread. Joyous times.

(The hospital is a maternity hospital, but the point remains.)
I think most of us assumed you were already posting from a mental hospital. Is that the not the current case?
 
So... would all you nice people recommend Coach Sullivan to a friendly neighbourly franchise?
Yes, he's a very good coach and probably the biggest reason for the 2016 cup. There's a lot of group think on these boards where some posters, including one less than stable individual, blame him for everything that goes wrong with the Penguins. But I hope the Rangers don't get him given the Penguins have their 1st next year.
 
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Just drove by the arena and it appears Josh Yohe has handcuffed himself to the entrance and refuses to leave until Mike Sullivan is immediately reinstated.

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No, Yohe's moved on to another Sulltard.
 
It's insane to me the constant mystique around Tocchet as a coach. Dude's sucked shit everywhere he's ever been as a HC. :laugh: f*** Rick Tocchet.

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I feel like his entire 'mystique' is built off of being called the Kessel Whisperer when they were together in Pittsburgh.

I think that's probably where he should be in the league: an assistant coach who can work with talented bozos
 
So 5 out of 6 non Pens vacancies. I wonder who didn’t hit him up.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were some teams out there with current head coaches that just reached out just to see if Sullivan would be interested. Same way that St. Louis fired their old coach once Jim Montgomery became available.

But yeah, I 100% expect the Bruins and Rangers to be 2 of the teams going hard after Sullivan.
 
It's insane to me the constant mystique around Tocchet as a coach. Dude's sucked shit everywhere he's ever been as a HC. :laugh: f*** Rick Tocchet.

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Exactly why I’m happy with him. I’m sure he will bury a skilled Euro or three but we will stink and the players will enjoy playing for him. And then no one will have a problem firing him.

What we don’t want is a guy to come in and get results from the sum of the parts :laugh:
 

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