Penguins and Mike Sullivan agree to part ways

Veteran contending team but let’s trade Guentzel, the one player Crosby didn’t want moved and the logical next cornerstone.

QUINTESSENTIALLY Dubasian galaxy brained move.

We’re not laughing at you Pens fans, we’re laughing with you in that crazy way you need to make sense of it all.
If you think the Penguins were a contending team when they sold Guentzel last trade deadline you were very mistaken. This team has been in steady decline for years and it is time for the consequences of their long contending window.
 
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Wouldn't surprise me sully is a bruin this week.
Imo Sully agreed to leave the Pens because Dubas let him know the plan was the club is rebuilding and will not have a v competitive roster for several years.
Not too sure why he’d pick the Bruins when they are even worse that Pittsburgh? Sully will have his choice of teams. So he will pick the club he fells has the best chance to win during g his contract. Imo he picks the Rangers.
 
Imo Sully agreed to leave the Pens because Dubas let him know the plan was the club is rebuilding and will not have a v competitive roster for several years.
Not too sure why he’d pick the Bruins when they are even worse that Pittsburgh? Sully will have his choice of teams. So he will pick the club he fells has the best chance to win during g his contract. Imo he picks the Rangers.
I think Donny wants him.
 
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Dubas traded Guentzel when the Pens were about to miss the playoffs for the 2nd straight year and were the 3rd oldest team in the league (the oldest by far the year prior). No, they were not a "veteran contending team" but I'm not surprised a Leaf fan doesn't know what that means. The Pens didn't make the playoffs with Guentzel and they didn't make it without him, but now they have 4 more prospects in their system.
Well look at you!

All kinds of bad faith opportunism to go along with the requisite amount of cognitive dissonance needed not to see what Dubas is doing to your club and the players that continued Lemieux’s legacy.

Intended as camaraderie but taken as slight. Dubas attracted the same types in our fanbase as well.

Ick, lol.
 
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If you think the Penguins were a contending team when they sold Guentzel last trade deadline you were very mistaken. This team has been in steady decline for years and it is time for the consequences of their long contending window.
Aspirationally veteran contending team by way of trading for EK15, then?
 
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Aspirationally veteran contending team by way of trading for EK15, then?
That's fair. Though the expectation was FSG wanted Dubas to try one last re-tool and obviously that failed. Which Dubas deserves criticism for. But the inevitable decline was long expected. Hell, Rutherford warned everyone years ago that a full rebuild was inevitable. This team isn't going to avoid it.
 
Veteran contending team but let’s trade Guentzel, the one player Crosby didn’t want moved and the logical next cornerstone.

QUINTESSENTIALLY Dubasian galaxy brained move.

We’re not laughing at you Pens fans, we’re laughing with you in that crazy way you need to make sense of it all.
What people don't know is Guentzel's agent and Dubas didn't see eye-to-eye before contract talks even began. But it got so bad that it affected Guentzel and had him traded on what was supposed to be the Canucks, but his agent made sure it didn't happen. His agent also bullied Tampa into signing him because Guentzel really wanted to go there for low taxes and nice weather. Tampa signing him kind of didn't make that much sense in hindsight.
 
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Part of me thinks he thinks about the Ducks job long and hard considering their group is gonna be better than the Rags/Bruins job. He has obvious history with the latter 2 teams but California + that young group might be more enticing than older cores in familiar spots
 
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Yea why not. Should be getting high picks anyway. And who better to mentor the next gen than guys like Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Rust and Rakell. Insulating young players is not a bad thing - otherwise you get a Buffalo or Chicago situation.
It's also the practical reality of the core three at least having full NMCs and not wanting to leave along with being able to sell tickets during the painful rebuild as well as guide the new young players.
 
Yea why not. Should be getting high picks anyway. And who better to mentor the next gen than guys like Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Rust and Rakell. Insulating young players is not a bad thing - otherwise you get a Buffalo or Chicago situation.
Sorry friend, but having Crosby, Malkin, Letang isn’t getting high picks. Those guys are the antithesis to what a rebuild ( with top five picks) is supposed to be.
 
Imo Sully agreed to leave the Pens because Dubas let him know the plan was the club is rebuilding and will not have a v competitive roster for several years.
Not too sure why he’d pick the Bruins when they are even worse that Pittsburgh? Sully will have his choice of teams. So he will pick the club he fells has the best chance to win during g his contract. Imo he picks the Rangers.
I would say that their among league best top pairing playing 67 games combined did a LOT of heavy lifting for this result..
 
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Sorry friend, but having Crosby, Malkin, Letang isn’t getting high picks. Those guys are the antithesis to what a rebuild ( with top five picks) is supposed to be.
Letang is beyond cooked so he's not preventing any tanking. Malkin is a 2C at best who will likely retire in a year. Crosby is the only one still playing at an elite level. And they still finished with the 9th worst record. And they'll only be a year older next year. Not worried, this group will be in the McKenna sweepstakes next season. Hopefully two shots at him if NYR continues to collapse.
 
Yea why not. Should be getting high picks anyway. And who better to mentor the next gen than guys like Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Rust and Rakell. Insulating young players is not a bad thing - otherwise you get a Buffalo or Chicago situation.
Yeah, true. There are multiple ways to rebuild and a salt-the-earth one is definitely risky
 
Veteran contending team but let’s trade Guentzel, the one player Crosby didn’t want moved and the logical next cornerstone.

QUINTESSENTIALLY Dubasian galaxy brained move.

We’re not laughing at you Pens fans, we’re laughing with you in that crazy way you need to make sense of it all.
If Guentzel is the cornerstone of your team you are a perpetual lottery team. He's like the 6th best player on TB and they are down 3-1 in the first round.
 
Letang is beyond cooked so he's not preventing any tanking. Malkin is a 2C at best who will likely retire in a year. Crosby is the only one still playing at an elite level. And they still finished with the 9th worst record. And they'll only be a year older next year. Not worried, this group will be in the McKenna sweepstakes next season. Hopefully two shots at him if NYR continues to collapse.

Rangers would be dumb not to give up this pick this year, there's no way you can even tempt fate giving a division rival a double chance at McKenna. But it's Chris Drury, so who knows
 
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What? Who are they? Bruins? Sorry friend but they are old and stink.
I bet my non existent house they're in the 8 seed with a healthy McAvoy and Lindholm this year. MASSIVE losses. I don't disagree they're old and stink and I've been waiting most of my life for it but they're better than the Penguins
 

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