Penalty or not? Player is hit, said player that is hit high sticks opposing teams player?

[metalan2]

So is it?

Player A is checked by player B on the opposing team. Player A then hits Player C from the opposing team in the face with a high stick as he was falling to the ice.

Penalty on Player A or not?

 

[eviohh26]

Player A must control his stick at all times.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Player A must control his stick at all times.

Yup.

But they took the penalty away. Refs are literally just making up things these days. Pens got screwed there.

 

[drewbahflo]

didn't check replay yet, but viewing it live it looked a lot like a headshot from said player B. current opinion until I see otherwise is that they can't call one without the other. the referees called Toronto while making the decision.

edit: I could be mistaken. hope someone posts the clip. I imagine it's pretty difficult to control your stick while taking a shot like that.

 

[metalan2]

didn't check replay yet, but viewing it live it looked a lot like a headshot from said player B.

That doesn't matter. Headshot on the hit is irrelevant, if it did happen.

 

[Jacob]

Player A must control his stick at all times.

Really, shot follow-thrus shouldn’t be exempt either.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

I assume you made a typo and meant to ask if penalty on Player A, not B.

Its supposed to, unless B did something to directly cause the A’s stick to C’s face like forcefully lifting the stick or swatting it into other players face

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

That doesn't matter. Headshot on the hit is irrelevant, if it did happen.

Lol “ignore the penalty I don’t wanna discuss, not relevant to the possible penalty it caused, the one I’d like to discuss.”

Sure bud.

 

[DapperCam]

No doubt Toronto called down on the situation in the Pens game.

 

[drewbahflo]

That doesn't matter. Headshot on the hit is irrelevant, if it did happen.

it definitely did, and I agree. I'd like more info because they called Toronto and huddled on the phone for a while before making a decision. not arguing with that fact. I just think both players would need to be called if one was. at least from what I saw. I hope the replay is posted soon.

Lol “ignore the penalty I don’t wanna discuss, not relevant to the possible penalty it caused, the one I’d like to discuss.”

Sure bud.

that is also my interpretation. don't see how you can call the high sticking without calling the pretty violent headshot.

 

[Chainshot]

Letang seems to get him in the head. As the officials point out, if it wasn't for Letang's action, there is no high stick.

 

[randywoodsghost]

What happens if the player gets knocked out and his stick cuts someone? Does he have to serve the penalty before you can take him to the hospital?

 

[drewbahflo]

Letang seems to get him in the head. As the officials point out, if it wasn't for Letang's action, there is no high stick.

thank you very much. this was exactly what I made out of the situation but without the clip it was difficult to make that point.

 

[eviohh26]

Imagine getting smoked by another player and ending up with a 4Minute penalty. That's actually kinda funny

 

[metalan2]

Lol “ignore the penalty I don’t wanna discuss, not relevant to the possible penalty it caused, the one I’d like to discuss.”

Sure bud.

Because it's not about that. Pretend it's about a completely different game and scenario.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Imagine getting smoked by another player and ending up with a 4Minute penalty. That's actually kinda funny

Penalty got taken away, and the Sabres won.

 

[eviohh26]

Penalty got taken away, and the Sabres won.

Oh okay. I haven't been home too long. Just tuning into hockey now. No idea what has happened today.

 

[Jacob]

What happens if the player gets knocked out and his stick cuts someone? Does he have to serve the penalty before you can take him to the hospital?

Someone else serves it.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Letang seems to get him in the head. As the officials point out, if it wasn't for Letang's action, there is no high stick.

Looks like body is definitely main point of contact, I don’t see that as particularly close to a check to the head infraction.

That said, the hit obviously caused him to lose balance and flail the stick upwards, but he’s supposed to be in control of it regardless. I guess it’s a somewhat grey area open to interpretation…or Penguins got hosed.

f*** if I know

 

[metalan2]

Looks like body is definitely main point of contact, I don’t see that as particularly close to a check to the head infraction.

That said, the hit obviously caused him to lose balance and flail the stick upwards, but he’s supposed to be in control of it regardless. I guess it’s a a grey area in the rules open to interpretation.

Right. So you either have to be in control of your stick or you don't. The NHL is full of contradictions.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Oh okay. I haven't been home too long. Just tuning into hockey now. No idea what has happened today.

It would be a maddening scenario otherwise haha. Could you imagine

 

[Panthaz89]

Bruh if you think the body was the main point of contact I think you need some serious glasses clearly the dude's humerous(arm between the elbow/shoulder) goes right into his head and doesn't even touch JJP's body in anyway beforehand.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Right. So you either have to be in control of your stick or you don't. The NHL is full of contradictions.

I’m fine with a no call on it or reversal, rather. It was clearly an accident and from being hit by another player, it wasn’t recklessness and swinging it around after being checked or bumped like you sometimes see.

Oh well. Rare case, it’s hard to account for everything specifically in the rules.

This is just one of those discretionary calls

 

[karltonian]

I assume you made a typo and meant to ask if penalty on Player A, not B.

Its supposed to, unless B did something to directly cause the A’s stick to C’s face like forcefully lifting the stick or swatting it into other players face

that does not matter at all

 

[Beerz]

Right. So you either have to be in control of your stick or you don't. The NHL is full of contradictions.

It's no different than a player stick lifting and causing a high stick... the stick going up was the direct result of the opposing player