PC Building Guide and Discussion #14

[stan the caddy]

No one on reddit actually has an AMD gpu but they'll all tell you to buy one.

 

[Osprey]

Steve reviews the new 4090 Ti:

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

It does feel like how Intel was doing their CPUs up until recently. Inject a shit load of power, add on some new stuff here and there and get 30% on average performance better. It's still something I'm grabbing considering I'm coming from a 3080. This thing will be way more than double the performance I'm already getting and last me even longer than my 4+ years with the 3080.

 

[Mikeaveli]

I will be holding off on a GPU upgrade for now, I can't justify buying another $1500+ display right now and 4090 is still good enough for 100+ FPS at 4k output in most games.

Still waiting for pricing and release date info on the 9950x3D.

 

[Osprey]

Tim explains why Multi-Frame Generation isn't worth upgrading to the 50 series for and why it doesn't make sense to use unless you have at least a 240Hz monitor.

 

[Osprey]

Amazon just delivered the Ryzen 9800X3D that I ordered a few weeks ago, when I still thought that the RX 9070 XT was going to be released by the end of the month. I don't usually order things in advance, but the 9800X3D is rarely in stock (at MSRP) and I was afraid that I'd have trouble finding one when I was finally ready for it. Also, the delivery estimate was a month away, so I thought that I needed to be proactive. It came weeks early, so I have the CPU now, but still haven't even ordered an AM5 motherboard or DDR5 yet. It feels a little silly to pair the best gaming CPU with a 4-year-old midrange GPU (the RTX 3070), but it also seems a little pointless to return it and then try to order it again later. So, I'll just keep it and hope that I'm able to upgrade my GPU before too long.

If anyone else wants to buy a 9800X3D, what I did was add a price watch for $479 at camelcamelcamel.com (Canadians will want to use ca.camelcamelcamel.com and set a $700 price). After a week or so, I got an e-mail that it was in stock at that price and I ordered it immediately. It was pretty easy. It just took several weeks (but could've taken much longer, especially since the delivery estimate was 3-6 weeks).

 

[PeteWorrell]

Hopefully you didn't get a dud. That's the risk with Amazon now because of how they mix their inventory.

 

[cjm502]

I used to be big in to PC building as a side hustle (unless you rip people off the margins suck, more of a hobby really) and have probably built between 40-50 PCs but aside from recently building one at cost for a friend, its been years since I've put one together. That build gave me the itch to put something together for myself and get back in to PC gaming. I'm currently building an engine which is draining the finances, but once that's done I have a plan to do something one of a kind. Since I'm a fabricator and have plasma tables, 3d printers, and water jets I'm thinking of making a custom case that would house a motorcycle radiator and make a cooling loop that would cool both the CPU and GPU together. Of course I would have to have to fabricate a type of splitter to give the radiator two inlets and outlets since I don't want the hot water from the CPU going straight to the GPU or vise versa. I would also have to make sure the water flow between the cpu and gpu was equal since im sure GPU waterblocks provide more resistance along with finding an optimal water pump and an additional power source for that water pump using since a standard PC water pump would not pump enough water for this concept and a water pump header may or may not supply enough power for the required pump. I would probably use something like a RGB header to provide a low watt 12v power supply to trigger a relay that would turn on the additional power supply for the water pump. No RGB, nothing fancy or not necessary. The PSU would literally only be powering the absolute necessities being the motherboard, CPU, GPU. Minimal peripherals (monitor, keyboard/mouse, headset), only two large radiator fans (maybe 4 if I go push/pull, dependent on performance), one PCI slot, and two m.2 slots being used. My house is old and has proven to have less than ideal electrical signal integrity, so starting the whole thing off with an uninterruptable power supply would be optimal for a build with both absolute maximum performance and maximum stability in mind. Once I quit dumping endless money in to my car I will upload build pics on here.

 

[cjm502]

Amazon just delivered the Ryzen 9800X3D that I ordered a few weeks ago, when I still thought that the RX 9070 XT was going to be released by the end of the month. I don't usually order things in advance, but the 9800X3D is rarely in stock (at MSRP) and I was afraid that I'd have trouble finding one when I was finally ready for it. Also, the delivery estimate was a month away, so I thought that I needed to be proactive. It came weeks early, so I have the CPU now, but still haven't even ordered an AM5 motherboard or DDR5 yet. It feels a little silly to pair the best gaming CPU with a 4-year-old midrange GPU (the RTX 3070), but it also seems a little pointless to return it and then try to order it again later. So, I'll just keep it and hope that I'm able to upgrade my GPU before too long.

If anyone else wants to buy a 9800X3D, what I did was add a price watch for $479 at camelcamelcamel.com (Canadians will want to use ca.camelcamelcamel.com and set a $700 price). After a week or so, I got an e-mail that it was in stock at that price and I ordered it immediately. It was pretty easy. It just took several weeks (but could've taken much longer, especially since the delivery estimate was 3-6 weeks).

I can respect a full team red build. With the delayed release of the 9070XT and it sounding like sellers will have good stock of all AIBs upon release it should be a lot easier than normal to get your hands on one once they're available. Any ideas on specific brands for the GPU or mobo? Of course there is the battle between trying to grab whichever you can get your hands on upon release in case availability gets crazy, or waiting a week to see reviews of each brand and hoping you can get your hands on the one you specifically want.

 

[Osprey]

Hopefully you didn't get a dud. That's the risk with Amazon now because of how they mix their inventory.

I'm not worried, but that's a good reason to buy the motherboard and RAM soon to make sure that CPU works before the 30-day return window closes.

I can respect a full team red build. With the delayed release of the 9070XT and it sounding like sellers will have good stock of all AIBs upon release it should be a lot easier than normal to get your hands on one once they're available. Any ideas on specific brands for the GPU or mobo? Of course there is the battle between trying to grab whichever you can get your hands on upon release in case availability gets crazy, or waiting a week to see reviews of each brand and hoping you can get your hands on the one you specifically want.

I'm not really trying to go "full team red." I'm not on any "team" when it comes to GPUs. I've gone back and forth between AMD/ATI and Nvidia over the last 30 years. It's just that Nvidia will have nothing this gen with 16GB of VRAM for under $749 and AMD will. I'll still consider the 5070 Ti, but I'd rather pay $150 less for 90% of the performance. I'm not sure if I'll go reference design or OC. It may depend on the performance difference or just what I can get my hands on. Ideally, I'd like the PowerColor Hellhound because I remember that that version of the 7900 XT was one of the quietest and coolest models. As for the motherboard, I've been very happy with the BIOS support for my current ASUS board, so I'm leaning towards ASUS again, but we'll see.