Value of: Pavel Zacha+++
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I don't have to be blown away, Zacha isn't all that great, but it has to be a hockey trade that makes sense for current and future roster if the devils
HugeInTheShire
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Only way the Devils move Zacha is for a top 6 winger that fits the age group, not Tarasenko, not Kessel or a RHD to replace Subban.
Does that description not fit Zacha?
JT Miller and you better blow us away................and if you are wondering about his shot, check out his goal from last night vs LA
Monsieur Verdoux
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I don't know why any GM would trade their youngish better winger for Zacha. What's the point for them? Only reason why I can see them making this kind of trade is they think Zacha can be a center.
Djp
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Done as long as the LHD prospect is not Hughes or Mukhamadullin. Devils fans saying no to this are crazy.
Monsieur Verdoux
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What's the point to trade Zacha for a 30 year old player? It would be questionable to use your assets for a player whose career is going to downhill. The Devils aren't contending for a few years so it would be pointless to make that trade.
Because that 30 year old player is far superior. In terms of timeline, if the Devils show dramatic improvement over the next 12 months, you can try to extend him. If not, a 50% retained Tarasenko might be a tremendous deadline rental and get us a 1st round pick.
Zacha has been a drag on this team far too long. It's time to move on, and if the team could get Tarasenko in the process it's a home run. No brainer really.
Monsieur Verdoux
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Tarasenko is a good player, definately better than Zacha, but I'm not sure how useful he is, let's say, in three or four years. I'm not against trading Zacha, but they should trade him for someone younger than Tarasenko. Someone who can help the team in a few years. The goal is not to get into the playoffs just barely but to succeed there. Short-sighted team building is something Jim Benning would do.
My guess is that Tarasenko in 3 or 4 years is better than Zacha is today. You are not getting a good young player for Zacha, it's just not going to happen.
The difference in quality between Zacha and Tarasenko is massive. If you have a chance to add an elite player like that at the cost of a replacement level player, you do it. Again, if the timeline doesn't work out you can trade Tarasenko in a year and get more for him than you can get for Zacha now. That's not short sighted at all.
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Its pointless to add him for this year, and we aren't likely to be much better for next year. Seems like we'd be adding him this year to flip him next year as a rental for someone. I don't like Zacha much, but at least there is some more long term viability. If we are talking about something like a 2 year extension for Tarasenko included I'm probably more likely to consider it. I'm not sure what his aging curve is, but 2 years at ages 32 / 33 I can probably stomach it.
If the Devils traded for Tarasenko and fired Ruff, I think they could make the playoffs this year.
Eggtimer
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Kinda. We need wingers badly, a scoring PP winger and a gritty winger with speed and size . E Kane type… just not E Kane for obvious reasons . Only thing is no one is trading that type of player . If they did , it wouldn’t be for Zacha +.
We desperately need a legit top line winger . We need two but we are hoping Holtz is one . Foote is exactly who we need to develop but so far he has not shown he is a NHL player.
Tom Wilson is exactly what we need but he is about as untouchable as it gets.
Meier , Tuch , Tkachuk , that type. But again , no way they are traded.
Eggtimer
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I agree . But not Ruff. Fire Recchi and Naz. Add Tarasenko and get the PP going and the rest will come along.
Having players like Kuokkanen Sharangovich in the top 6 is a disaster. They literally do nothing of value at all.
Eggtimer
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And has said already he wants to stay in Buffalo. He is still inured but he is from the area and Buffalo has a player that is from the area and wants to stay. I don’t see him being available.
If he is l then hell yes I want the Devils to make an aggressive offer.
Devils should 100% try to get Tarasenko . The Blues are having horrible cap space issues right now. Tarasenko and the coach haven’t been seeing eye to eye (Tarasenko has been benched recently) . Now is the time for the Devils to make an offer.
He is exactly what they need. No more sitting on their hands waiting for scrubs like Kuokkanen and Sharangovich to magically become first line wingers.
“ Here Jack , here is a 8 million $ per year contract for the next 8 years . Here are your wingers … Kuokkanen and Sharangovich. Never heard of them? Neither have we. They are not NHL players but maybe you can turn them into one , good luck kid!”
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HugeInTheShire
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Only on a bad team would he be considered a top 6 player, he's a good enough player but not a consistent enough guy for top 6 minutes and, he like most Devils are a pass first type of player, they need a top 6 winger that shoots
I don't think he's got enough value on his own to get much of a return though
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