Player Discussion Paul Byron

[Megaforce]

Oilers preferred keeping Zack Kassian to Byron on waivers. Just ponder that fact.

 

[JianYang]

Oilers preferred keeping Zack Kassian to Byron on waivers. Just ponder that fact.

I just realized that kassian has a comparable cap hit to byron.

The hockey world realizes that byron is a good player that can help out alot of teams, but there probably was some apprehension about where his career was trending since that fight he had a couple years ago. Then you add on the cap reality under covid conditions, and it just became too much of a risk to take on.

Thankfulky for the habs, he has turned back the clock a little bit in this run, and looks more like a winger version of pageau right now rather than the guy struggling to stay healthy and finding his identity within the team.

 

[26Mats]

I just realized that kassian has a comparable cap hit to byron.

The hockey world realizes that byron is a good player that can help out alot of teams, but there probably was some apprehension about where his career was trending since that fight he had a couple years ago. Then you add on the cap reality under covid conditions, and it just became too much of a risk to take on.

Thankfulky for the habs, he has turned back the clock a little bit in this run, and looks more like a winger version of pageau right now rather than the guy struggling to stay healthy and finding his identity within the team.

Even during this playoff run, his offensive numbers aren't good. That will affect teams' interest in taking on his contract. But he's a player I'd move this offseason, if there were a taker.

 

[JianYang]

Even during this playoff run, his offensive numbers aren't good. But he's a player I'd move this offseason, if there were a taker.

Pure offensive numbers does not paint the picture of what you look for out of byron. He can be used in a variety of situation not limited to offense.

He will still be tough to move depending on how flexible the cap can be, but it's nice to see a run of "good health", or at least being healthy enough to play because that has also been an issue for the last couple years.

 

[26Mats]

Pure offensive numbers does not paint the picture of what you look for out of byron. He can be used in a variety of situation not limited to offense.

He will still be tough to move depending on how flexible the cap can be, but it's nice to see a run of "good health", or at least being healthy enough to play because that has also been an issue for the last couple years.

Yes, pure offense numbers don't tell the whole story with Byron. But they do have a big effect on whether a team will want to take on a 3.4M contract for a 5'9 player. Pageau's playoff numbers are far superior to Byron's. So while Byron has been clutch, he hasn't been nearly as prolific.

 

[JianYang]

Yes, pure offense numbers don't tell the whole story with Byron. But they do have a big effect on whether a team will want to take on a 3.4M contract for a 5'9 player. Pageau's playoff numbers are far superior to Byron's. So while Byron has been clutch, he hasn't been nearly as prolific.

Well, their salaries are not comparable either. Pageau is obviously the better player, and that is reflected in his salary.

Byron lost a ton of value because of economics. Covid made a player like him at that salary indigestable, plus the injuries.

In the covid world, you add 800k more to that salary, and you end up with Tyler toffoli. I can assure you his price would have been alot higher pre covid, but it goes to show how much the value drops of players who signed their deals in a pre covid world.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Oilers preferred keeping Zack Kassian to Byron on waivers. Just ponder that fact.

Oilers need size. Byron is a good fit on a team with size but needs speed. Habs increased our size up front even though we are still a bit soft in some ears but it's clearly an improvement.

Byron with guys like KK and Anderson is a good fit IMO.

Sum of all parts is where it's at

 

[Habs Halifax]

Even during this playoff run, his offensive numbers aren't good. That will affect teams' interest in taking on his contract. But he's a player I'd move this offseason, if there were a taker.

What player are you going after if you move Byron's cap hit? I don't feel we need to move him.

I would push hard to add a pick for Seattle to take Drouin. You free that up and let Tatar walk, we end up with lots of cap space. Enough to re sign Danault, Perry, Lehkonen, and Armia and also bridge KK

 

[26Mats]

What player are you going after if you move Byron's cap hit? I don't feel we need to move him.

I would push hard to add a pick for Seattle to take Drouin. You free that up and let Tatar walk, we end up with lots of cap space. Enough to re sign Danault, Perry, Lehkonen, and Armia and also bridge KK

We've scored 1 goal in 3 of the 4 games. I'd like to use the cap space to get a better top 6 player than Byron, Tatar, and Drouin. And we would still benefit from getting Weber a more mobile LD partner.

We've got enough pains defensive players with limited offense in Danault, Evan's, Lehk, and Armia.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We've scored 1 goal in 3 of the 4 games. I'd like to use the cap space to get a better top 6 player than Byron, Tatar, and Drouin. And we would still benefit from getting Weber a more mobile LD partner.

We've got enough pains defensive players with limited offense in Danault, Evan's, Lehk, and Armia.

I agree on the needs but I'm not sure of who chooses to sign with us or what trades we can get in on to accomplish that. I prefer to move up or down, not stay in the middle.

My attempt would be this..
- Tatar walks. If he really wants to stay, we can only offer him $2M max.
- I see if Seattle would be ok with an extra 3rd to take Drouin. Might consider a 2nd if I feel a key UFA will sign.
- Armia, Lehkonen, Danault, Perry re-signed.

Then I look at what's left and what other trades we can get in on. I would engage on Eichel but if the Rangers offer one of Lafreniere or Kakko with other pieces, we can't compete with that.

 

[26Mats]

I agree on the needs but I'm not sure of who chooses to sign with us or what trades we can get in on to accomplish that. I prefer to move up or down, not stay in the middle.

Well we've made it to the conference finals. So that should help us attract ufa's.

There should be some good ones this summer, though if Hall and Landeskog don't make it to market, that would diminish the high end possibilities. Either of those players would be good for KK and Gallagher to play with.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Well we've made it to the conference finals. So that should help us attract ufa's.

There should be some good ones this summer, though if Hall and Landeskog don't make it to market, that would diminish the high end possibilities. Either of those players would be good for KK and Gallagher to play with.

* Landeskog is not going to leave the Avs IMO. Maybe if he wants to cash in but I think he believes in that core and wants to go back.
* If Hyman leaves the Leafs, it's not to join the Habs. Forget about that option
* Hall I am interested on but only on a team friendly deal and I suspect he returns to the Bruins if he is forced to sign a team friendly deal.

Landeskog would be ideal but I doubt that happens

 

[Kimota]

Bob Hartley was telling a story after the last game how when he was with the Flames and they sent Byrion on waivers, he was pretty pissed off, he was one of his favorite guys. He said something like Byron and Bob actually cried in his office. And then to think about how all the times he was sent on waivers this year and no one took a chance, breaks your heart. He is showing them all! (including us)

 

[Archijerej]

Byron will always have my respect for this run. What a warrior he is!

 

[frapp10]

He played great during this run. But unfortunately the time is up and we need to unload his 3.4 million any way possible to be able for this team to take the next step

 

[the]

I love the payer, I wish he could be a bit cheaper however but he did earned it with the way he played during the playoffs.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

Maybe he could be a Tatar replacement next year.

 

[Bouboumaster]

He was good this playoffs.

He's not cheap, but other changes could be made before trading him. And he loves it here.

 

[dkd]

I like him, but we have to part ways.

 

[MrGold]

 

[Miller Time]

but but but Anaheim has Disney

but but but Dallas has lower taxes

lol

there are a lot of guys in the league that, like Byron, love the game and love the thought (or opportunity) to play in a Mecca of the sport like Montreal.

we just need to do a better job of targeting the elite ones and not just the waiver wire types (as much as I appreciate Byron)

 

[sandviper]

but but but Anaheim has Disney

but but but Dallas has lower taxes

lol

there are a lot of guys in the league that, like Byron, love the game and love the thought (or opportunity) to play in a Mecca of the sport like Montreal.

we just need to do a better job of targeting the elite ones and not just the waiver wire types (as much as I appreciate Byron)

I find a lot of players who have developed here, or came via trade end up really liking the city. I guess UFAs can choose where they go and I suppose sunny destinations are preferred, but those who’ve given the city a chance end up being happy.

 

[Koivu11]

 

[Moose Head]

Oilers preferred keeping Zack Kassian to Byron on waivers. Just ponder that fact.

Oilers are certainly experts on team building

 

[26Mats]

I love the payer, I wish he could be a bit cheaper however but he did earned it with the way he played during the playoffs.

We lost to Tampa because we couldn't score against Tamoa. Need an upgrade offensively somewhere. His 3.4M contract is where I'd start.

If we go pure shutdown linexwith byron and Lehk on the wings, and Armia and perry on the 4th, then we really need offense from the top 6. Suzuki and Caufield may be elite one day, but not yet. I'd rather more offense on the 3rd line.