Player Discussion Patrik Laine

[Habby4Life]

Oh my god, I can't even with you. I'm cringing so bad at this point I think I'd rather just go back to work.

Strawman, Strawman, Strawman!

 

[Andy]

at this point I’m really hoping Laine can be back by Jan 2025. Sounds doubtful

 

[overlords]

hmm thats a good sign he's on crutches and hasn't went under the knife yet. Must be getting lots of opinions. Thank god he isn't just a regulat 9-5 worker, they would have cut his leg off for precaution in a few weeks, when there was a dr available.

he's still be on the waiting room floor clutching his knee.

 

[HomaridII]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840779514114085299

 

[Habby4Life]

he's still be on the waiting room floor clutching his knee.

Yeah, no way anyone one of us would get an MRI in a day or two.

 

[Habs]

he's still be on the waiting room floor clutching his knee.

On the phone with Telus health, from a call center in Bangladesh.

 

[CHwest]

Yep. It needs to end, we need to go for it, like yesterday. I already feel like last year was a year too much for Nick and the likes, they felt completely numb anytime you'd see their faces.

Honestly yeah the fans are gonna get disintersted but I'd f***ing hate it for some of our core players to just quit on the team or on their careers. Complacency is tough to get rid of.

I think you are projecting, players know if they have a team to win or not, you cannot tell me that the player aren't excited about getting Demidov. I think you are far more frustrated than they are.

 

[nhlfan9191]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840778006979047732

https://x.com/i/web/status/1840778475080187997

The fact they’re blue balling the fans can’t be a positive thing.

 

[DAChampion]

It's simple. Stop using strawman argument.

Are you the poster formerly known as Ozymandias?

The fact they’re blue balling the fans can’t be a positive thing.

I think you're over interpreting.

 

[Mrb1p]

Facts over Feelings my man lol.

You’ll be aight lol

The fact is your posting is incoherent.

One could say that a rebuilding team that has 1 single player not from "tanking" is a team that isn't built from tanking, yet it is an useless comment.

You were trying to make a point that you thought was clever but it was not.

 

[ReHabs]

I'd call those forever tankers if we passed year 4 or 5. We're 3 years in.

We were many years ahead — Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle + others in the bag when they started.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Are you the poster formerly known as Ozymandias?


I think you're over interpreting.

Yeah it's me, D. Hi, how you doing?

 

[nhlfan9191]

Are you the poster formerly known as Ozymandias?


I think you're over interpreting.

It doesn’t take days to get information like that out unless you have a PR team trying to find a way to spin it in a more positive light.

 

[ReHabs]

The fact they’re blue balling the fans can’t be a positive thing.

I don’t think it’s a good thing either but remember Dr Mulder is 1000 years old so he might have just been slow to read the scans.

 

[le_sean]

The fact they’re blue balling the fans can’t be a positive thing.

Teams don’t have their own surgeons. They have to wait for swelling to go down. Then scan and then get multiple opinions I’d imagine. It takes more than two days for that.

 

[waffledave]

It’s funny how this is constantly ignored in this raging tanking debate.

But I digress

It's as if people think tanking is the only way to add talent. It might be the most simple way, but it comes with downsides, especially to the young players currently on the roster.

 

[Mrb1p]

I think you are projecting, players know if they have a team to win or not, you cannot tell me that the player aren't excited about getting Demidov. I think you are far more frustrated than they are.

I'm pretty sure Nick and Co thought they'd AT LEAST be challenging for a playoff spot. Maybe finish 24th or 22nd in overall, not 27th again.

What else are they going to do as players? They signed here, they're here. I know they were excited for Laine, Lane, Demidov. Why? Because they're excited to win.

It's as if people think tanking is the only way to add talent. It might be the most simple way, but it comes with downsides, especially to the young players currently on the roster.

Nobody thinks that.

 

[Tabarouette]

idk I understand the sentiment and I do think some people are just happy tanking forever

bookies putting us at 76 points this year is like, to me that would be a catastrophic failure... The whole point of having a team full of 20-26 year olds is that they'll progress every year, if they don't then we're not building, we're just stagnating

 

[waffledave]

Yeah, no way anyone one of us would get an MRI in a day or two.

To be fair if you pay $1200 you can get one tomororw.

 

[DAChampion]

Yeah it's me, D. Hi, how you doing?

Loaded question but mostly good personally, though as a Habs fan I feel deflated. You?

 

[Captain Mountain]

We were many years ahead — Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle + others in the bag when they started.

What's the implication here? That Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle qualifies as many years ahead despite the fact the almost every rebuilding team starts with talent? Or that advocating not going for it now means that talent that hasn't made it yet wont soon?

I don’t think it’s a good thing either but remember Dr Mulder is 1000 years old so he might have just been slow to read the scans.

Mulder's Head Physician Emeritus, he's not the one reading the scans or making the decisions.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

We were many years ahead — Suzuki, Caufield, Guhle + others in the bag when they started.

This sort of a fallacy, because while they were here, it wasn't enough. The intervening years between their acquisition and the loss of major players was when it started. We didn't start rebuilding until Price and Weber were gone. The hole left wasn't patched by adding CC, suz and Guhle. That massive hole is when the rebuild started, imo and no matter the players we already had, that hole was there and still hasn't been filled.

 

[DAChampion]

It doesn’t take days to get information like that out unless you have a PR team trying to find a way to spin it in a more positive light.

Really, that's the only possible reason to wait a few days?

@Andrei79 can you comment on this medical analysis?

 

[Tyson]

I think you are projecting, players know if they have a team to win or not, you cannot tell me that the player aren't excited about getting Demidov. I think you are far more frustrated than they are.

Rebuilding is one thing if players buy into it. Let's not forget that these athletes are the best at their craft in the world and didn't get that way by being ok with losing. These guys want to play meaningful games.

 

[Mrb1p]

I'd call those forever tankers if we passed year 4 or 5. We're 3 years in.



That's my point.

The core players have been acquired in
2019 (Nick, Cole)
2020 (Guhle)
2021 (Roy)
2022 (Slaf, Dach, Lane)

This is the rebuild. We're not in year 3, we're at the very best in year 5, I'd say year 6 because the true accumulation started in 2018 with KK, Romanov)