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Rapala

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Grate n Colorful Oz said:
IMO, you are. Marty's a quick study who is constantly trying to get better and we haven't seen a fully experienced version of him. Judging him by how he's been in his first two seasons is a bit premature.

I disagree with the notion that he's simply here in the interim. HuGo hired him to grow with the team. All great coaches are the actual captains of their team and Marty already fits that role to a T. His crew will go to war for him. If they need someone for better X and O's, they'll simply add someone rather than replace someone the players see as one of their own.

Elite players rarely make good coaches, but I feel MSL is the exception to the rule.
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The thing is Marty went through brick walls to establish his Eliteness.
There is no reason to doubt he'll put the same efforts into his coaching career.
Hiring Grillo is a clear indication he knows he's not nearly good enough yet.
 
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Everyone that talks about Marty mention how great of a hockey mind he is. He's obviously going to improve the tactician part of coaching.

We already know he's a great development coach, a leader, and someone who is good at motivating the players. The potential of Marty as a coach is huge, and it would be foolish to let him go, especially when you look at who the alternatives are.
 
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Probably already posted, but Dreger was on tsn radio in Montreal and mentioned there was a 3rd team that tried to acquire Laine, but that team was on the no-trade list and Laine didn't want to waive it.

Dreger also mentioned the Habs originally asked for a 1st with Laine
 
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink said:
Probably already posted, but Dreger was on tsn radio in Montreal and mentioned there was a 3rd team that tried to acquire Laine, but that team was on the no-trade list and Laine didn't want to waive it.

Dreger also mentioned the Habs originally asked for a 1st with Laine
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I mean they did get what should be an early second so they weren’t far off getting a first. The Monahan trade was a huge success and I love that Hughes is using the advantage of being in a rebuild to make these kind of deals. If this ends up working out and Laine finds himself, Hughes is going to look like a genius.
 
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nhlfan9191 said:
The Monahan trade was a huge success and I love that Hughes is using the advantage of being in a rebuild to make these kind of deals. If this ends up working out and Laine finds himself, Hughes is going to look like a genius.
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Imagine if Laine works out and produces as a top six forward; after the solid calibre of play that Monahan delivered.

The Canadiens would have received four seasons (combined) of top six play from Monahan and Laine, plus two first round draft picks, plus a 2nd round draft pick, plus anything they may get should they move Laine at next year's deadline; or extend him as a piece moving forward, and all for the price of Jordan Harris.
 
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Paddyjack said:
Not training today, treatments....

I love the excitement over him, but let's not forget we got him for Harris and we received a second on top of it.
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I think the team wants to prevent possible injuries, which is why he is undergoing rather therapeutic procedures today. Also do not forget it can be to associated with mental health treatment. Maybe this is what we should have done in the Columbus Blue Jackets before his seasons here, in Columbus. :huh:
 
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FerrisRox said:
Imagine if Laine works out and produces as a top six forward; after the solid calibre of play that Monahan delivered.

The Canadiens would have received four seasons (combined) of top six play from Monahan and Laine, plus two first round draft picks, plus a 2nd round draft pick, plus anything they may get should they move Laine at next year's deadline; or extend him as a piece moving forward, and all for the price of Jordan Harris.
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Makes you wonder what we can get for Struble :naughty:
 
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The Great Weal said:
I also do think at 50% retained he’d fetch some decent assets if he doesn’t work out.
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There will probably be a team willing to take his last year if he don't work this year although that depend to which extent.

The best case scenario tho imo is that he does work here and we can extend him throughout Suzuki and Caufield prime.
 
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FerrisRox said:
Imagine if Laine works out and produces as a top six forward; after the solid calibre of play that Monahan delivered.

The Canadiens would have received four seasons (combined) of top six play from Monahan and Laine, plus two first round draft picks, plus a 2nd round draft pick, plus anything they may get should they move Laine at next year's deadline; or extend him as a piece moving forward, and all for the price of Jordan Harris.
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The cool thing with Laine is he is young. He's just a year older than Suzuki so he fits our core.

Paddyjack said:
Not training today, treatments....

I love the excitement over him, but let's not forget we got him for Harris and we received a second on top of it.
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If we want to be honest Jordan Harris for a high 2nd round pick is a good trade since we had too many LHD so whatever happen with Laine it will remain a good trade,
 
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LaP said:
The cool thing with Laine is he is young. He's just a year older than Suzuki so he fits our core.


If we want to be honest Jordan Harris for a high 2nd round pick is a good trade since we had too many LHD so whatever happen with Laine it will remain a good trade,
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Oh absolutely, don't get me wrong here, I love the trade. But sometimes I'm a partypooper and enjoy throwing cold ice over red hot excitement :)
 
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nhlfan9191 said:
I mean they did get what should be an early second so they weren’t far off getting a first. The Monahan trade was a huge success and I love that Hughes is using the advantage of being in a rebuild to make these kind of deals. If this ends up working out and Laine finds himself, Hughes is going to look like a genius.
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Whether it works out or not it it was a genius move. That's in the books already. Now we just see if there is a payoff.
 
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the valiant effort said:
I agree with Maurice when it comes to the plumbers of the league, but ultra skilled puck handlers should always be on their off wing
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That is entirely incorrect.

Playmakers should always be on their strong side where they can more easily shield the puck and pass on their forehand. The only archetype that is suited to play on the off hand are pure shooters with decent enough mitts to be able to control the puck in traffic and to be able to collect breakout passes on their backhand/skates.

As a defender you are trying to force attackers to their backhand where they are less dangerous and put them in a situation where they are forced to transfer to their forehand which is where it is easy to disrupt their possession. In my experience this is so much easier to do against off handed attackers. So for the most part you don't want your most skilled players playing on their offhand where they are at a disadvantage and lesser skilled players can neutralize them. Players who don't necessarily possess the puck a tonne in the O-zone but are great shooters are the players that are commonly off handed.

nhlfan9191 said:
I mean they did get what should be an early second so they weren’t far off getting a first. The Monahan trade was a huge success and I love that Hughes is using the advantage of being in a rebuild to make these kind of deals. If this ends up working out and Laine finds himself, Hughes is going to look like a genius.
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Hughes is certainly building a reputation as an elite GM
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
That is entirely incorrect.

Playmakers should always be on their strong side where they can more easily shield the puck and pass on their forehand. The only archetype that is suited to play on the off hand are pure shooters with decent enough mitts to be able to control the puck in traffic and to be able to collect breakout passes on their backhand/skates.

As a defender you are trying to force attackers to their backhand where they are less dangerous and put them in a situation where they are forced to transfer to their forehand which is where it is easy to disrupt their possession. In my experience this is so much easier to do against off handed attackers. So for the most part you don't want your most skilled players playing on their offhand where they are at a disadvantage and lesser skilled players can neutralize them. Players who don't necessarily possess the puck a tonne in the O-zone but are great shooters are the players that are commonly off handed.



Hughes is certainly building a reputation as an elite GM
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I am definitely partially correct. The list of ultra skilled possession monster wingers that play their off wing is a long one.
 
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