Player Discussion Patrik Laine: wearing a regular practice jersey

themilosh

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I don’t think the club or Laine was seeking opinions from GPs…not that I disagree that doctors in general (and all human beings) are more incompetent than ever before
True..

lolz, reminds me of my crazy hypochondriac aunt. always knows better than her doctors :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Once you get pegged as a hypochondriac it's over, all just for getting my pap smeared.. pft

I highly doubt he was seeking a second opinion from a GP 😂😂
Ikik.. it was a rant..
 

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lolz, reminds me of my crazy hypochondriac aunt. always knows better than her doctors :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Doing my google medical research.

Honey, it says for meningitis, drink equal parts lemon juice & Tabasco sauce while standing on your left leg. I’ll double check that with Joe Rogan.
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Habby4Life

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I hope Laine made right decision
We will know in three months.

I remember the Price never ending injury, hopefully this doesn’t become that.

I agree with one of the posters who mentioned the wide range of medical opinions they got, surgery, and no surgery is a little strange. Seems to be both ends of the spectrum.

Hoping all goes to plan!!
 
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morhilane

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I agree with one of the posters who mentioned the wide range of medical opinions they got, surgery, and no surgery is a little strange. Seems to be both ends of the spectrum.
That stuff happens often with doctors, you usually get a different diagnostic for every doctors you consult.

In this case, as another poster mentioned, studies have shown that a lots of knee injuries do not actually require surgery. Natural healing + rehab works just as well. Some doctors might not care about those studies, while others will.
 

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That stuff happens often with doctors, you usually get a different diagnostic for every doctors you consult.

In this case, as another poster mentioned, studies have shown that a lots of knee injuries do not actually require surgery. Natural healing + rehab works just as well. Some doctors might not care about those studies, while others will.
Yes, my professional background is technical and financial in nature, and in those types of jobs you tend to converge on an answer through mathematics - i.e. finding a maximum, optimum, minimalizing something, etc. I used to wonder why professions like doctors couldn't converge on an answer but as I've grown older and befriended people in these professions I've learned you're dealing with a much higher level of uncertainty in most cases, which means it can be quite methodical or challenging to converge on a single problem.

FWIW a book that really opened my eyes to this was Outlive by Dr. Peter Attia.
 

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I wish he didn’t just consider the information he wanted to hear, or making a decision only base on wanting to play this season. That being said he will always be able to get the surgery later if the rehab doesn’t feel right, there another event or the team is going nowhere early.
 

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Medicine is much more dynamic than simply finding the maxima and minima of functions. There are many variables at play in biological systems, which is why more often than not single-variable calculus is not effective.

I’m assuming Peter Attia wrote about chaos theory and its applications in medicine in that book?
I don't recall reading anything about chaos theory in the book, but he shares some case studies of medical diagnosis and treatment processes, especially for different diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's/dementia and it opened my eyes on how hard it can be to diagnose/complications with developing a treatment plan.
 

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Medicine is much more dynamic than simply finding the maxima and minima of functions. There are many variables at play in biological systems, which is why more often than not single-variable calculus is not effective.

I’m assuming Peter Attia wrote about chaos theory and its applications in medicine in that book?
Doctors are like mechanics except with white collar protections. And sometimes they pick diagnosis only for their own gain at the expense of the patient, just like a shady mechanic.

Some of their work is difficult. Some is because they pick the diagnosis that conveniences them or their organization the most at the expense of the patient.
 
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Estimated_Prophet

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Doctors are like mechanics except with white collar protections. And sometimes they pick diagnosis only for their own gain at the expense of the patient, just like a shady mechanic.

Some of their work is difficult. Some is because they pick the diagnosis that conveniences them or their organization the most at the expense of the patient.

All vocations include individuals on a continuum ranging from poor to exceptional competencies/practices.
 
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