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Proposal: Patrik Laine to Vancouver

Imo the Habs should waive Laine for the purpose to send him to the minors.
His trade cost is way too high. Just bury his ass; it’s only one year.
agreed. Couldn't believe he blocked a trade to MN. Guerin wanted him badly but glad that trade fell through
 
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Laine + Xhekaj + Primeau + 2025 VAN 3rd (around #76-ish)
for
UFA rights to Boeser + Aman + Silovs + 2025 SJS 3rd (#65 i think)

Qualify or don't qualify Primeau, whatever Vancouver wants to do.
 
To Vancouver : Patrik Laine (8.7 AAV until 2026)

To Montreal : Dakota Joshua (3.25 AAV until 2028)

With J.T. Miller’s departure a few months ago and Brock Boeser leaving this summer, the Canucks will need players in their top six who can score goals. Patrik Laine is one of the best snipers in the league. He comes with his flaws, but when it comes to scoring—especially on the power play—he gets the job done. The Canadiens would likely prefer to find another solution for their second line, and by trading Laine, they’d have more cap space to do so. I understand that Dakota Joshua is a valued bottom-six player in Vancouver, but he’s more easily replaceable than a player who can score 30 to 40 goals.
There would need to be retention on the Habs part and also would depend on who the nucks target with the assets they have and on July 1st.
I'm fine with the deal in a vacuum if the habs retained at least 25% of the salary but would prefer Ehlers or even signing back Brock.

What about a 3rd for Joshua?
He's a fine player who can score 20 and play physical but we have bottom six guys that can fill his role offensively internally for a lot cheaper.
We have 17 million in cap and I'd like to see him and even Garland moved to clear up another 8 and go big game hunting because scoring is the only real hole the team has and 24 million in cap plus the 15th and a few really good defensive prospects along with other picks should allow them to aquire at least two of those types of players.
Lekkerimakki needs to be in the top six and guys like Raty and Linus karlson, have shown they are NHL ready.
 
The Habs could easily afford to retain 50% of his salary.

But the guy is a 4th line PP specialist at this point. Maybe his knee improves and he starts playing with more intensity, but I wouldn't take that gamble. This is a last resort for Vancouver or any team.
 
As a fan of both teams, I don t think it makes a lot of sense except if the goal is to prevent JR from allocating that cap space to a 30+ year old 3rd liner for 8 years. ;)
 
Honestly I'd rather keep Laine for one more seadon than take on Joshua at $3.25m fir another 3 seasons. He got paid on an outlier season and regressed back to being a 14 point guy last season. He's gritty yeah but he's also injury prone.hes not worth his contract. I'd rather just have Laine fill the net on the powerplay for one more season.
 
Honestly I'd rather keep Laine for one more seadon than take on Joshua at $3.25m fir another 3 seasons. He got paid on an outlier season and regressed back to being a 14 point guy last season. He's gritty yeah but he's also injury prone.hes not worth his contract. I'd rather just have Laine fill the net on the powerplay for one more season.
This. We have guys in the minors like X or Tuch that should bring some size and physicality and get 14 pts while on their ELC. I’d rather just retain 50% and ship Laine out for FCs.
 
To Vancouver : Patrik Laine (8.7 AAV until 2026)

To Montreal : Dakota Joshua (3.25 AAV until 2028)

With J.T. Miller’s departure a few months ago and Brock Boeser leaving this summer, the Canucks will need players in their top six who can score goals. Patrik Laine is one of the best snipers in the league. He comes with his flaws, but when it comes to scoring—especially on the power play—he gets the job done. The Canadiens would likely prefer to find another solution for their second line, and by trading Laine, they’d have more cap space to do so. I understand that Dakota Joshua is a valued bottom-six player in Vancouver, but he’s more easily replaceable than a player who can score 30 to 40 goals.
I doubt Montreal does this. Joshua has 7 goals, Habs needs goals. Bad for Montreal . Laine in contract year should have good year.
 
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Wait, the Canucks are GIVING up the best player for Laine? No retention?

Canadiens aren't getting out of that contract without retention or tacking on a pick to him.
What contract? He’s got one year left and Montreal has something like 27M to play with this summer
Now that’s a trade that actually makes good sense for both clubs. 👍
Dach isn’t moving for a 4th liner.
Habs don’t even want this guy in their camp, no? Clearly it’s either the Habs add a lot of sugar, retain and add, or waive and send his worthless add to the A.,imo that means Laine is in the A.,
I think Habs management couldn’t care less. He will be back for another year and then they will reassess next summer. I don’t think there’s an argument to be made where it would make sense to move a pick to get rid of his contract. It’s doesn’t make any sense
 
Laine doesn’t play with half the balls that Joshua does. Vancouver would be stupid to make that deal. Laine (with 50% retention) for Chityl makes more sense.
this I can see working. Dach for Joshua is a non-starter for MTL. Yes Dach is a disappointment thus far, and yes Joshua represent right now a better player, but I think MTL management still think they can get a good top 6 player out of Dach.

Also, Laine as 1 yr left on that contract... so people saying MTL need to add to move him... guess what: 1-MTL does not need to move him. Plenty of cap space and 2- cheaper to buy the guy out then pay the stupid price people are putting up here.
 
Habs don’t even want this guy in their camp, no? Clearly it’s either the Habs add a lot of sugar, retain and add, or waive and send his worthless add to the A.,imo that means Laine is in the A.,

Where the hell are you getting that idea from?
 
you’re gonna need to add to dump Laine
That is assuming MTL want to dump Laine, which is not the case. If Laine get move, it's to a team that want him for what he brings: PP goals. I can see MTL retaining 50% on the cap hit tho.
 
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Habs don’t even want this guy in their camp, no? Clearly it’s either the Habs add a lot of sugar, retain and add, or waive and send his worthless add to the A.,imo that means Laine is in the A.,
What? MTL is fine with him next season. We need top 6 and no cap issue either.
 
Maxime Talbot:
you are taking the words of a guy that never played for MTL, not particularly close to the current group of players otherwise and just sharing his own opinion as... the "team desire to not have him back at camp"?
 
Maxime Talbot:

Wait, are you serious? Maxime Talbot is a brash talking head who has zero input or connections to the Canadiens front office. And he's very clearly offering his opinion.

This is like taking Jeff O'Neill saying that Toronto should under no circumstances bring back Tavares as meaning that Toronto has zero intention in re-signing Tavares.
 
this I can see working. Dach for Joshua is a non-starter for MTL. Yes Dach is a disappointment thus far, and yes Joshua represent right now a better player, but I think MTL management still think they can get a good top 6 player out of Dach.

Also, Laine as 1 yr left on that contract... so people saying MTL need to add to move him... guess what: 1-MTL does not need to move him. Plenty of cap space and 2- cheaper to buy the guy out then pay the stupid price people are putting up here.
Could be mentally damaged vs brain damaged in the terms of the trade. Essentially Montreal isn’t getting out of that contract compared to what some people are trying to say. He doesn’t have any value even if he scored some powerplay goals. Teams would rather play a youngster and let them go through growing pains then an $8m PP specialist who’s invisible otherwise out there.
 
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As a Canuck fan I do not mind Laine and his goal scoring capabilities but I also do not want to sell low on Joshua. Dak is the epitome of what went wrong this past Canuck season as he could not train and was not ready due to testicular cancer. The previous year Dak showed what he is capable of and I believe (not unlike EP40) a full season of healthy training and a clear mind he brings some much needed size, speed, grit and a nice touch around the net. I do like the idea of buying Laine, at the right cost.

Cheers
 
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Wait, are you serious? Maxime Talbot is a brash talking head who has zero input or connections to the Canadiens front office. And he's very clearly offering his opinion.

This is like taking Jeff O'Neill saying that Toronto should under no circumstances bring back Tavares as meaning that Toronto has zero intention in re-signing Tavares.
Is Tavares a drain on the club though? Laine at 8 mil for another season will cost to unload. Having him in the room isn’t wise either. Imo the Habs should waive Laine and assign him to Laval for next season.
 

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