Player Discussion Patrik Laine: ruining the tank

[japhi27returns]

lets hope PL learned a lesson
so we all can move on

Ya, hopefully we can look back on this as that time Patty said some fairly innocuous stuff, the fans booed him gently. and the jackets came out and put in an average effort in an overall mostly non physical game where they gave up 4 goals and beat one of the worst teams in the league. What a moment for that group. True grit.

 

[flin flon bombers]

Their current GM Don Waddell said the exact same thing about what the state of the organization had been, losing was acceptable.

No witch hunt for him, while stating the same observation.

I'm sure wadell had Laine in included as well when he said it.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Ya, hopefully we can look back on this as that time Patty said some fairly innocuous stuff, the fans booed him gently. and the jackets came out and put in an average effort in an overall mostly non physical game where they gave up 4 goals and beat one of the worst teams in the league. What a moment for that group. True grit.

Don't forget Patty hiding in the locker room for 2 periods, that's the main piece of this drama

 

[HabsDood]

Any news on the injury?

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

The Jackets knew he was mentally vulnerable and targeted him all night to mess him up. That's what I'm not comfortable with. Also, Werenski continued trashing him after winning the game. That's just not cool. The Jackets and Laine decided to part ways amicably and settling old arguments like that was just unacceptable. This is hockey, not a boxing match. The Jackets organisation should have brushed it off, but instead destabilized the Habs by going after their best goalscorer. For a league that is advocating for player safety, it's quite contradictory.

I respect your beliefs because you sound like a really good guy, but if that's how you really feel NHL hockey just might not be the sport for you.

Especially in the playoffs it's all about wear and tear, mental games, enduring pain, who can tough it out longer. There are no handouts, and if one team targets a mentally soft player, it's just part of the game.

 

[HabzSauce]

Maybe it will become a rivalry and we have Laine to thank, or likely be irrelevant shortly as our attention spans are nothing

Lets be honest, if MtL had some tough guys and not fake ones last night, they woulda handled things differently as well

Frankly once they saw Laine being targeted, Johnson and Fantilli should have be ran right back

Can't wait for the day we have a tough team again. Panthers for example would have answered back no problem.

 

[HuGo Sham]

my God, the main board Laine thread is just awash with all the foul-mouthed, anti-habs muppets with their trolling, sanctimonious takes. It's so f***ing mean-spirited what sane habs fan would want to post there?

merry xmas eve everyone!

 

[70Stang]

Totally agree with lack of toughness. You can not allow CB to smash you all over the place with no response. Problem for years has been habs are small and soft. Big guys are soft other than WIFI and Anderson. Thats a lot of soft tenderness. This team is unable to play the hard tough games. They don't have the horses to counter. They had a chance to get Kastelic off waivers for 4th line but didn't. Pezz who gets beat up every time he fights eats hot dogs and makes paper airplanes in press box. The make up of this team is awful. If the habs kept Laine out of the game to "protect" him from being targeted I have lost even more respect for this Gorton/Hughes adventure.

 

[sampollock]

Don't forget Patty hiding in the locker room for 2 periods, that's the main piece of this drama

We need to get Inspector Clouseau on this case
you know

my God, the main board Laine thread is just awash with all the foul-mouthed, anti-habs muppets with their trolling, sanctimonious takes. It's so f***ing mean-spirited what sane habs fan would want to post there?

merry xmas eve everyone!

Yeah they can stay there if their player did the same thing they'd hide in the closet and cry like a wee child

 

[Marioesque]

I'm sure wadell had Laine in included as well when he said it.

Not really as he never worked with him

 

[sheed36]

Meh.. The timing of his comments could've been better I guess but the guy was just being honest and I have zero issues with that. If CBJ players or management want to throw it back into his face that he was also part of the problem then that's also fair game so have at it.

I wouldn't worry too much about what fans in Columbus think about your comments Patrik. At the end of the day they'll still likely dislike Ryan Day way more for losing to Michigan the last 4 years.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

my God, the main board Laine thread is just awash with all the foul-mouthed, anti-habs muppets with their trolling, sanctimonious takes. It's so f***ing mean-spirited what sane habs fan would want to post there?

merry xmas eve everyone!

It's a cesspool

 

[jakobsbror]

this situation reminded me of eller talking shit of edmonton before playing them many years ago. obviously we lost that one

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Totally agree with lack of toughness. You can not allow CB to smash you all over the place with no response. Problem for years has been habs are small and soft. Big guys are soft other than WIFI and Anderson. Thats a lot of soft tenderness. This team is unable to play the hard tough games. They don't have the horses to counter. They had a chance to get Kastelic off waivers for 4th line but didn't. Pezz who gets beat up every time he fights eats hot dogs and makes paper airplanes in press box. The make up of this team is awful. If the habs kept Laine out of the game to "protect" him from being targeted I have lost even more respect for this Gorton/Hughes adventure.

Seriously this is the only point I want people to focus on.

There are three possible outcomes and all of them are concerning

1. Laine actually did get hurt off minimal contact
2. Laine got scared and pulled himself out
3. The Habs got scared and pulled Laine out

I don't care if Laine talks shit as long as he can back it up. In a game as important as this, you don't shut down your hottest player, you have his back on the ice.

 

[OldCraig71]

If Caufield and Dach converted their chances, no one is even talking about this. His comments, though ill-timed, only matter because we lost.

 

[BargainBinSpecial]

I respect your beliefs because you sound like a really good guy, but if that's how you really feel NHL hockey just might not be the sport for you.

Especially in the playoffs it's all about wear and tear, mental games, enduring pain, who can tough it out longer. There are no handouts, and if one team targets a mentally soft player, it's just part of the game.

I have been a fan for as long as I can remember and play in amateur, even bush leagues. Your comments are the kind that tend to piss off others because their egos get hurt. I will brush it off because I'm grown up and it doesn't phase me honestly. I'm just laughing at the fact that you just said it's part of the game.

Guy said they sucked, and then they try to mess him up psychologically. He spoke his mind. I don't see how you can condone such behaviour. I would have let my guard down and let it be by focusing on my game instead. Going after your former teammate is childish, knowing very well about his mental state, but I guess the Jackets couldn't swallow their pride. After a few hits, I think there was no need to continue trying to take him out. So, they proved he was a coward. They are now vindicated. Anyways, low class. Both Laine and the Jackets look like fools right now.

I was actually rooting for Columbus after the tragic loss of Gaudreau. However, the amount of trash talk over here in the following 24 hours was impressive and down right disgusting, especially from Jackets' fans. It's bush league on live TV. The rivalry between the Bruins and Habs existed because Boston would always try to plow the best Hab forwards. Luckily, they had Lemieux, Nilan, etc. to defend themselves.

My only hope is for Laine to come out a warrior out of this and beat their sorry butts next game. It will be a bitter sweet revenge. But again, if you believe hockey is about egos then I'm sorry you are better off watching UFC. This can be a start of a Jackets Habs rivalry and I really hope Laine proves everyone wrong and becomes the hero.

On another note, the Habs need enforcers. Over the years, players are being rammed continuously by opponents without anyone standing up for them. The Habs would pay top dollar for enforcers that would throw punches on the ice once upon a time. Kent has a lot of work to do. Where was Anderson to say a word or two? They even told Xhekaj to bring it down a notch. If Hughes and Gorton believe that opponents can go after their best assets without consequences, then you can actually forgot about the playoffs.

Anyways, the league wants to outlaw this type of behaviour. Hockey is not boxing. It may have been before, but it no longer is and I like better this way. Lots of careers got ruined because of injuries due to egos. Your mentality needs to change as well.

 

[JianYang]

this situation reminded me of eller talking shit of edmonton before playing them many years ago. obviously we lost that one

Haha, I remember the oilers coach saying they were going to send eller a gift basket for motivating his guys.

 

[JianYang]

Seriously this is the only point I want people to focus on.

There are three possible outcomes and all of them are concerning

1. Laine actually did get hurt off minimal contact
2. Laine got scared and pulled himself out
3. The Habs got scared and pulled Laine out

I don't care if Laine talks shit as long as he can back it up. In a game as important as this, you don't shut down your hottest player, you have his back on the ice.

I think #3 is not plausible. Sitting a guy out without a medical reason is probably a good way to get on the player's bad side.

Laine's injury history speaks for itself, so that will always be a concern.

 

[dinodebino]

Ya, hopefully we can look back on this as that time Patty said some fairly innocuous stuff, the fans booed him gently. and the jackets came out and put in an average effort in an overall mostly non physical game where they gave up 4 goals and beat one of the worst teams in the league. What a moment for that group. True grit.

Hey you, what happened to your old profile? The one you taunted us with your Romanian hottie?

 

[sampollock]

habs saying nothing about PL
not sure if good or bad

 

[habdynasty]

I didn’t see the habs getting gooned up last night, Laine got bumped a couple times and left the game. The hits were 18-15 jackets.

 

[themilosh]

I didn’t see the habs getting gooned up last night, Laine got bumped a couple times and left the game. The hits were 18-15 jackets.

In fairness, he deserved it. Dude, you going to rag on your former team? What do you expect?

 

[Frankenheimer]

Totally agree with lack of toughness. You can not allow CB to smash you all over the place with no response. Problem for years has been habs are small and soft. Big guys are soft other than WIFI and Anderson. Thats a lot of soft tenderness. This team is unable to play the hard tough games. They don't have the horses to counter. They had a chance to get Kastelic off waivers for 4th line but didn't. Pezz who gets beat up every time he fights eats hot dogs and makes paper airplanes in press box. The make up of this team is awful. If the habs kept Laine out of the game to "protect" him from being targeted I have lost even more respect for this Gorton/Hughes adventure.

Doubt this is the case. Would be too bizarre of a reason. He probably got dinged and didnt want to risk a more serious injury.

 

[Frankenheimer]

Haha, I remember the oilers coach saying they were going to send eller a gift basket for motivating his guys.

I remember weiss thumping his chest and flexing and subban telling bs he would take all that energy away in G7 and then doing so. Best series ive seen in 25 years. Best handshake lineup ever. A good rivalry is awesome. Weiss absolutely owned Lucic during the series.

This is so mild in comparison but its just unfortunate that Laine is coming off a lot of therapy and really needed to focus on himself. There was a lot of positive vibes wherever he went. I think he'll say something about it that brings closure but it could snowball if he continues his honesty tour.

Kind of interesting with this and quinn hughes players speaking matter of factly about locker room troubles. We'd have to piece all of this together with rumours and innuendo before.

 

[RC51]

what is this new thing about the jackets trying to injure Lanie. Laine said words, you can say words back. Intent to injure is a whole new ball game. If and I mean IF it is true that the Jackets were guilty of intent to injure heads should roll. Yes it's hard to prove but I did say IF.... the NHL will right now sweep under the rug this time. Now if this happens again The NHL will be forced to hit the Jackets words are words not action.