Player Discussion Patrik Laine: Part 2 - Healthy Living Edition

[Hins77]

What has struck me the past few games is how slow he is. Slow to skate, slow to make decisions, slow to shoot.

Luckily he has a deadly shot and he has Hutson and Suzuki to feed him on the power play.

But at the end of the game, the winner is the team with the most goal... Then , I take Laine over every forward in the team except Suzuki for a face to face against goalie.
I know Laine have his flaws. But he remains a solid piece

 

[Sasha Orlov]

What has struck me the past few games is how slow he is. Slow to skate, slow to make decisions, slow to shoot.

Luckily he has a deadly shot and he has Hutson and Suzuki to feed him on the power play.

Marioesque gonna tell you that when he’s healthy he’s actually the fastest player in the NHL

 

[Seb]

But at the end of the game, the winner is the team with the most goal... Then , I take Laine over every forward in the team except Suzuki for a face to face against goalie.
I know Laine have his flaws. But he remains a solid piece

Yeah, I don't mind him at all. Ideally with a much lower salary tho.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Marioesque gonna tell you that when he’s healthy he’s actually the fastest player in the NHL

He's actually better than Lemieux. If only he had been healthy like Lemieux we would have seen it.

 

[Marioesque]

He's actually better than Lemieux. If only he had been healthy like Lemieux we would have seen it.

Lemieux wasn't that fast either. Same as Laine, fast when they get into stride but getting into stride isn't the biggest strength for either. I like Laine, because he's the closest to Mario, my favorite if all time, as a package out of the current players.

But I would not expect you guys to see that.

EDIT: Also have to add, when Mario came back after years of hiatus, he was slower than current Laine but he still scored 2 goals and assisted on one in the first game back because players of that level don't need to be the fastest on the ice. I stayed up in the middle of the night to watch that game when Lemieux came back.

 

[Mrb1p]

Lemieux wasn't that fast either. Same as Laine, fast when they get into stride but getting into stride isn't the biggest strength for either. I like Laine, because he's the closest to Mario, my favorite if all time, as a package out of the current players.

But I would not expect you guys to see that.

Well no, hes not close to Mario at all, but its fine, he doesnt need ot be to be a good player.

 

[Marioesque]

Well no, hes not close to Mario at all, but its fine, he doesnt need ot be to be a good player.

It's the style

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Lemieux wasn't that fast either. Same as Laine, fast when they get into stride but getting into stride isn't the biggest strength for either. I like Laine, because he's the closest to Mario, my favorite if all time, as a package out of the current players.

But I would not expect you guys to see that.

EDIT: Also have to add, when Mario came back after years of hiatus, he was slower than current Laine but he still scored 2 goals and assisted on one in the first game back because players of that level don't need to be the fastest on the ice. I stayed up in the middle of the night to watch that game when Lemieux came back.

Lmfao holy f*** he actually did it

 

[Marioesque]

Lmfao holy f*** he actually did it

Who did what?

Isn't THIS what you said I would say?

"Marioesque gonna tell you that when he’s healthy he’s actually the fastest player in the NHL"


Have you seen that somewhere?

 

[Marioesque]

Well no, hes not close to Mario

Didn't say he was close to Mario.

 

[Naslundforever]

Didn't say he was close to Mario.

Partial to Armia for Mario comparatives myself

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Laine fans out of control

First he gets compared to Lemieux in here, now we have guys suggesting he gets traded 1 for 1 for Ovechkin

Never seen anything like this before

 

[Marioesque]

we have guys suggesting he gets traded 1 for 1 for Ovechkin

Never seen anything like this before

Again, sample size. There were a lot of stylistic comparisons between Laine and Lemieux early on in his career, due to similar size and skating and having great hands and some nice dekes to break defenses. So you never seeing it, just means you haven't followed the players career.

I haven't heard this "trade idea" but that's obviously not interesting from either perspective.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Again, sample size. There were a lot of stylistic comparisons between Laine and Lemieux early on in his career, due to similar size and skating and having great hands and some nice dekes to break defenses. So you never seeing it, just means you haven't followed the players career.

I haven't heard this "trade idea" but that's obviously not interesting from either perspective.

You’re too funny dude

 

[Marioesque]

You’re too funny dude

History is funny to you?

What other old stuff is gonna be super fresh for you today?

Hell, there's a HFboards thread dedicated to the topic from way back when.

Thread 'Does Patrik Laine remind me of Mario Lemieux?'

Dec 7, 2016

To you guys who watched the OT between Jets and Redwings, Laine made a deke standing completely still only using his reach and timing. I've never seen anyone but Mario deke in that fashion.

Check out 03:40 in this vid:

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Just for more context since you're apparently new to all this information.

What to expect from Patrik Laine in the NHL

Though Patrik Laine has not done much on the score sheet in the World Cup, his game has drawn comparisons to all-time greats, Craig Custance writes.

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"“Right now, on this ice, he reminds me of Mario Lemieux,” Hossa said. “The long strides, long stick, the vision, the shot, the way he skates. He moves like a young Mario Lemieux. I know it’s not a fair comparison.”"

Is Patrik Laine the Next Coming of Mario Lemieux?

So take yourself back to the 1987 Canada Cup if you're old enough. Remember how it looked when Mario and Wayne were linemates? How glorious was that? Did you ever wonder how that might look on an

www.beerleagueheroes.com

Here in this clip they say "Marioesque" and they compare clips




And

McKeen’s 2016 Top 30 NHL Draft Rankings (Jan-2016)

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""He's the first prospect that reminds me of Mario (Lemieux) since Mario," noted one senior NHL scout who was blown away by Laine's performance at the WJC over the holidays, where the 6-4 left winger compiled seven goals and six assists in seven games while leading Finland to a Gold Medal victory at home. "




So it's not just Laine fans who have made the comparison. It was scouts, players and coaches.

Your ignorance of something is not an argument against it.

Here I am just agreeing with them, and you're acting like this was a hot or new take.


Most goals prior to turning 22 years old

Wayne Gretzky 240
Dale Hawerchuk 173
Jimmy Carson 162
Steven Stamkos 153
Mario Lemieux 145
Bobby Carpenter 145
Brian Bellows 133
Patrik Laine 133
Sidney Crosby 132


Hey Sasha, this is for you

 

[Kennerback]

Laine fans out of control

First he gets compared to Lemieux in here, now we have guys suggesting he gets traded 1 for 1 for Ovechkin

Never seen anything like this before

Not a grossly evaluating Laine fan yet, but it seems something I would want to be part of.

 

[KevSkillz4]

That would be very stupid by management to don't keep him.

He is not perfect, but he put great effort since the 4 nations break.

He can easily put 35-45 goals in 82 season with Hutson on PP all year long lol!

That's a huge piece for this team, Suzuki is a 25 years old player and Laine is 26. No big difference in age lol!

 

[InsideLaineBOOM]

Canadiens' Laine, Hutson dish on unique power-play connection

Lane Hutson and Patrik Laine have developed a special chemistry on the Canadiens' power play this season. Eric Engels explains how it all came together.

www.sportsnet.ca

Fun little interview with Laine (and Lane) about Lane's passes to Laine on PP.

 

[Naslundforever]

Canadiens' Laine, Hutson dish on unique power-play connection

Lane Hutson and Patrik Laine have developed a special chemistry on the Canadiens' power play this season. Eric Engels explains how it all came together.

www.sportsnet.ca

Fun little interview with Laine (and Lane) about Lane's passes to Laine on PP.

The spin thing is interesting. Used to hear that about Markov’s passing.

 

[Canadienna]

Canadiens' Laine, Hutson dish on unique power-play connection

Lane Hutson and Patrik Laine have developed a special chemistry on the Canadiens' power play this season. Eric Engels explains how it all came together.

www.sportsnet.ca

Fun little interview with Laine (and Lane) about Lane's passes to Laine on PP.

That's a great piece. Laine thinking Hutson is putting a righty spin on the puck and Hutson saying he doesn't but don't tell Laine is hilarious.

 

[DAChampion]

I'm surprised that Wool hasn't taken over as a nickname for him.

 

[eklund the clown]

Laine fans out of control

First he gets compared to Lemieux in here, now we have guys suggesting he gets traded 1 for 1 for Ovechkin

Never seen anything like this before

Mario could skate faster on 1 leg than Laine .Are most in here too young to see Mario play? .Except for PP goals he is a liability.He is slower than Savard.

 

[Archijerej]

Laine is a useful addition to a team like ours, looking to take a step out of the basement. We wouldn't be where we are without his powerplay goals.

That said, his play 5 on 5 is just cringe-inducing. In fact, the whole Heineman - Newhook - Laine line is a disaster waiting to happen every other shift. The same was true when Dach centered that line.

He gets a mulligan from me this year for health reasons, but if it's the same next season, I don't see this being a long-term relationship.

 

[Naslundforever]

Mario could skate faster on 1 leg than Laine .Are most in here too young to see Mario play? .Except for PP goals he is a liability.He is slower than Savard.

It’s weird we’ve seen him back check and chase down guys then go in the corner for a 50-50 puck and skate there like he’s 84 years old

 

[Baksfamous112]

What has struck me the past few games is how slow he is. Slow to skate, slow to make decisions, slow to shoot.

Luckily he has a deadly shot and he has Hutson and Suzuki to feed him on the power play.

You are mostly wrong. All of these issues are due to one factor that you didn’t mention. Laine is terrible at receiving passes in *most* of the situations. It bounces off his stick a lot and he loses momentum and pace in his game because he has to constantly reposition his stick/body once the puck hit his blade.

That half a second to a second he takes every time to have full control of the puck is enough for his defender to close in on him and that makes Patty rush a play or a pass because he doesn’t have full control of the puck right away.

Once Laine fixes this (I believe the coaching staff is probably already on it) you will see his game flourish. He will have more pace (and will look more engaged) and have more time to make (the right) play and his turnover and *bad* play will go way way down.