Value of: Patrik Laine & 16 or 17 OA

[ColbyChaos]

Donato was an irrelevant NHLer until he was put onto Bedard’s hip this season. He could have broken out late or it could be a one hit wonder season. It’s more so to get Laine to wake up and realize if lower profile guys can do it, so can he (even with his mental health issues).

Laine has become an irrelevant NHLer while Donato can play up and down the lineup. Laine is just a power play specialist with plenty of off ice issues that saw him plummet down the lineup of every team he has been on.

He is a top 6 or bust player who is a negative at 5 on 5 but also a negative in the room in general. Laine is not someone a contending team with aspirations of winning the cup wants in the room while also being a person a rebuilding team shouldn’t want on their team either because he is a horrible example to follow. Laine is playing his way out of the league even if Donato regresses he will stay in the league a lot longer than Laine will with how they both are playing

Laine has been traded numerous times now already and he still hasn’t gotten the message instead he just resorted to Blaming ex teammates for his shortcomings he did it to the jets and he did it to Columbus. It’s no coincidence Columbus and Winnipeg both had massive upticks in performance with him leaving

 

[wedge]

I'm pretty sure KH would buy him out before giving out a 1st to get rid of him.

I would trade him with 2.3 millions retained before buying him out and that's probably the best option here. Pretty sure it could be done without giving out more than a 3rd if we retain the same amount as a buyout.

 

[Maitz]

I have nothing against retaining 50% of Laine contract for a late pick, for a team that needs a good shot on the PP it would be 4.3M, not that bad.

 

[Danarqhy]

Keep Laine, he's obviously injured. LTIR him next year and if Habs make the playoffs, activate him him fully healed Kucherov-style.

 

[heretik27]

Laine has become an irrelevant NHLer while Donato can play up and down the lineup. Laine is just a power play specialist with plenty of off ice issues that saw him plummet down the lineup of every team he has been on. When he wasn’t battling addiction to video games he was battling addiction to substance abuse.

He is a top 6 or bust player who is a negative at 5 on 5 but also a negative in the room in general. Laine is not someone a contending team with aspirations of winning the cup wants in the room while also being a person a rebuilding team shouldn’t want on their team either because he is a horrible example to follow. Laine is playing his way out of the league even if Donato regresses he will stay in the league a lot longer than Laine will with how they both are playing

Laine has been traded numerous times now already and he still hasn’t gotten the message instead he just resorted to Blaming ex teammates for his shortcomings he did it to the jets and he did it to Columbus. It’s no coincidence Columbus and Winnipeg both had massive upticks in performance with him leaving

Any links to this claim? I've never heard of Laine having substance abuse issues. I've heard plenty of issues about the gaming and mental health, but not that. A quick Google search came up with nothing.

 

[elmaco]

Any links to this claim? I've never heard of Laine having substance abuse issues. I've heard plenty of issues about the gaming and mental health, but not that. A quick Google search came up with nothing.

Links: trust me bro

 

[wetcoast]

I kinda feel like after last night's game, and some of the comments from Habs players saying they won because there were no passengers, that Laine's stint as a Hab may be short and sweet,

Which teams might be willing to take a 1 year cap dump in Laine to also get a 16th or 17th overall, namely for a 2nd line centre or top 4 RHD? Preferably someone between the ages 26-30 and over 6 ft.

Montreal could (and would have to) sweeten the pot with one of our many good but kinda redundant prospects (Kapanen/Beck/Mailloux/Mesar/Farrel/Tuch/Engstrom/Primeau etc...)

In previous years I would've suggested something with Arizona/Utah, but those days are seemingly over and I can't think of another team that's clearly cap-dump central. Maybe Seattle or NYI? I'd say Chicago but the only pieces that Montreal would want from there aren't available. Pittsburgh should go this route but won't be with Dubas.

You had it right at Cap dump, some team might take Laine for free but no way are they giving a 16 or 17th pick in this draft and it's not even a good draft year that late in the first round.

 

[BLNY]

Laine is worthy of being maligned, but not at expense of 2 first round picks. If they use them as capital in trade it will be to add to the roster (not addition by subtraction).

 

[ColbyChaos]

Any links to this claim? I've never heard of Laine having substance abuse issues. I've heard plenty of issues about the gaming and mental health, but not that. A quick Google search came up with nothing.

You dont enter the player assistance program for playing Fortnite too often lmao

 

[heretik27]

You dont enter the player assistance program for playing Fortnite too often lmao

He had mental health issues, people use the player assistance program for all sorts of things outside of substance abuse. You are aware his father passed away before that right?

 

[TheBeard]

Laine and 17 will get you the 18.

 

[HuGo Sham]

I'm pretty sure KH would buy him out before giving out a 1st to get rid of him.

I would trade him with 2.3 millions retained before buying him out and that's probably the best option here. Pretty sure it could be done without giving out more than a 3rd if we retain the same amount as a buyout.

he has a year left on his deal; he aint being bought out and certainly not by attaching a 1st as sweetener. Hughes /Gorton aren't Tree-living

 

[Fatass]

he has a year left on his deal; he aint being bought out and certainly not by attaching a 1st as sweetener. Hughes /Gorton aren't Tree-living

Waivers and sent to the minors?

 

[HuGo Sham]

Waivers and sent to the minors?

No. Worse case scenario they'll trade him with retention. I don't see them attaching a 1st to rid themselves of 1 year. The habs aren't anywhere near cap-strapped and desperate as flames were with Monahan

 

[olli]

Laine is playing his way out of the league. Super sad to see as a jets fan but it’s very hard to root for him these days given his comments in the media and lack of effort.

 

[Baksfamous112]

The point is the Habs will not be able to move Laine for just “anything” unless they retain (a lot) and add picks. The more they’re willing to retain; the less picks they add.
Habs have the cap room to just bury him in the minors. Waivers and bury.

One year left. Someone will take a flyer on him at ~6M if there is no cost attached to him. He can stil score goal and someone will fantasize about turning him into a decent two way threat while keeping the goals scoring intact

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Future Considerations?

Laine is awful

 

[Z-Diddy]

Future Considerations?

Laine is awful

unfortunately, this is correct, the guy is cooked in the NHL, a truly bizarre player case of highs and lows, regardless he's made his money and can comfortably live out a healthy life

 

[jfhabs]

Kapanen, Mailloux, and Tuch aren’t redundant at all. The rest, maybe, but they aren’t throw ins either.

Habs also don’t need to dump Laine; he only has one more year left on his contract.

Tuch is 23, he played 4 years of NCAA... He's the same age as Dach and Newhook. Maybe he can be a 4th liner, maybe... Mailloux and Kapanen are much better prospects.

 

[ON3M4N]

No. Worse case scenario they'll trade him with retention. I don't see them attaching a 1st to rid themselves of 1 year. The habs aren't anywhere near cap-strapped and desperate as flames were with Monahan

If MTL retains 50% and a team feels wants to take a gamble on him, it's like a going to cost 2nd to move him. MTL would likely need to wait until after his bonus is paid though. That would put the new team on the hook for $3.35 million in money owed.

 

[UED]

If MTL retains 50% and a team feels wants to take a gamble on him, it's like a going to cost 2nd to move him. MTL would likely need to wait until after his bonus is paid though. That would put the new team on the hook for $3.35 million in money owed.

But I was told we ripped off the dumb Blue Jackets! Got Laine AND a 2nd, if you can believe it! Lol! Haha! Laugh at them!

 

[elmaco]

But I was told we ripped off the dumb Blue Jackets! Got Laine AND a 2nd, if you can believe it! Lol! Haha! Laugh at them!

That trade got you into the playoffs.

 

[HuGo Sham]

That trade got you into the playoffs.

based on tone, highly doubt he's a habs fans

 

[Boondock]

Montreal has tons of caproom, went 8 million under the cap this season. No top free agents will sign here. His contract is not an issue. We not attaching a first round pick to rid of Laine. We draft well in mid first round. Last 3 picks in mid first round have been Guhle, Caufield and Hage. We are giving up one of their caliper to move 1 year of Laine. When don't need the caproom.

But isn't the point getting a needed player at either #2C or top 4 RHD? The thread isn't about just dumping Laine. If the Habs are trying to move Laine out and bring in a #2C or top 4 RHD (depending on the player) it will require more positive assets than just the 1st. It is my opinion that at $8.7 for a player that can't stay healthy, has effort concerns and plays the wing there won't be a long line up of teams interested in taking on Laine and giving up a 26 year old upgrade at one of the 2 most valuable positions in the sport.

 

[Drake1588]

A skilled, young, top-six center with size in exchange for a disinterested cap dump who has burned his last bridge… if that’s the scenario, that plus had better be exceptional.

This isn’t the move where they also add a key piece coming back. They’ll be lucky to be rid of Laine at all.