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Patrik Laine’s falloff is wild

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S1N4TR4 said:
Laine has just 6 points in his last 14 games… 2 goals in his last 16 games.

while averaging barely 13 minutes TOI in that 14 game span.

over his last 2 seasons he has played in a total of 52 games out of a possible 164.

in those 52 games, he has 33 points. over an 82 game season, he’d be on pace for just 52 points.

wowza.

8.7 million dollar cap hit.

such a weird career.
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Dispute what many Habs fans will tell you, that's exactly who he is. Some hot streaks where he racks up PP goals, then garbe for 1/5 of the season.

Lethal shot, mediocre NHL player
 
Nogatco Rd said:
Isn’t that pretty much par for the course for his career at this point though? The initial hot streak when he got back from his injury was exciting, been like 7 or 8 years since he’s had sustained success though.

Not sure what his deal is but hope he’s able to find fulfillment whether or not that’s on a hockey rink.
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It is what it is at this point, when he was younger some months he looked like the next superstar then he would go into funks where he look like Ron Sedlbauer.

He is just older now and had some injuries as well.
 
This is exactly the player the Jets knew they were splitting with at the time. The only surprise comes from Habs fans overhyping as usual.
 
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olli said:
2 time 60 goal scorer hart trophy winner huge disappointment
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If you ever watched him in the playoffs, you'd know what I'm talking about.

There is a case that he's not even the 100th best playoff scorer ever. There's a reason he's 0-8 in final elimination games.
 
NVious said:
If you ever watched him in the playoffs, you'd know what I'm talking about.

There is a case that he's not even the 100th best playoff scorer ever. There's a reason he's 0-8 in final elimination games.
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Doesn’t mean he’s a huge disappointment. He wasn’t supposed to be on the level of Crosby/Mcdavid. Is Stamkos’ career a disappointment too because he’s been pretty average in the playoffs too.
 
olli said:
Doesn’t mean he’s a huge disappointment. He wasn’t supposed to be on the level of Crosby/Mcdavid. Is Stamkos’ career a disappointment too because he’s been pretty average in the playoffs too.
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Nah he really is, guy is paid like McDavid with all the potential in the world surrounded by other great players and he just fails every time.

He will either be the 5th/6th fastest NHL player to 400 goals in NHL history, his season goal/60 is 1st out of all active/retired players all time (wasn't tracked before lockout), his goal/game ranks 5th all time including Gretzky and Lemieux.

Meanwhile in the playoffs he ranks 28th in g/60 among active players, 55th if you include retired players as well and his goals per game goes to 55th all time. For his talent level and team's talent level, disappointment is an understatement. He and Laine both leave you wanting so much more.

Guy is pacing to be near the all time greatest goal scorer ever and over 90 players have put a better 55 playoff game goal scoring stretch than him.
 
olli said:
Doesn’t mean he’s a huge disappointment. He wasn’t supposed to be on the level of Crosby/Mcdavid. Is Stamkos’ career a disappointment too because he’s been pretty average in the playoffs too.
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Stamkos since his first playoffs (‘10-11) is tied for 12th in playoff points with 101 (tied with Ovechkin) and 15th in PPG for players with 50+ career playoff games at 0.79 (tied with Toews and Bergeron). He has absolutely not been “pretty average”

Laine’s 0.67PPG for players who’ve played his 24 games or more since his first playoffs (‘17-18) is tied for 78th. Much more “pretty average”. Stamkos, for reference, is at 28th at 0.84PPG over that same period.
 
NVious said:
Nah he really is, guy is paid like McDavid with all the potential in the world surrounded by other great players and he just fails every time.

He will either be the 5th/6th fastest NHL player to 400 goals in NHL history, his season goal/60 is 1st out of all active/retired players all time (wasn't tracked before lockout), his goal/game ranks 5th all time including Gretzky and Lemieux.

Meanwhile in the playoffs he ranks 28th in g/60 among active players, 55th if you include retired players as well and his goals per game goes to 55th all time. For his talent level and team's talent level, disappointment is an understatement. He and Laine both leave you wanting so much more.

Guy is pacing to be near the all time greatest goal scorer ever and over 90 players have put a better 55 playoff game goal scoring stretch than him.
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I’m not saying his playoff performances haven’t been disappointing relative to what he’s done in the regular season but overall his career has not been. Lainey’s career obviously has been. That’s the difference. After they were both drafted if you showed me their careers up until this point I’d be disappointed with Laines but still impressed by Matthews career despite his poor playoff showings.
 
Aphid said:
He had the perfect fit in Winnipeg and then he went and sabotaged himself due to his ego of wanting to play on the first line if I remember right. Columbus and Montreal don't/didn't fit him. There is teams that do fit him though and he needs to go to those teams to get back to the level he was on the Jets.
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What made him the right fit in the Peg?
 
NVious said:
If you ever watched him in the playoffs, you'd know what I'm talking about.

There is a case that he's not even the 100th best playoff scorer ever. There's a reason he's 0-8 in final elimination games.
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Laine can’t even get his team in that situation as “the guy” on his team.
 
S1N4TR4 said:
Laine has just 6 points in his last 14 games… 2 goals in his last 16 games.

while averaging barely 13 minutes TOI in that 14 game span.

over his last 2 seasons he has played in a total of 52 games out of a possible 164.

in those 52 games, he has 33 points. over an 82 game season, he’d be on pace for just 52 points.

wowza.

8.7 million dollar cap hit.

such a weird career.
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He has a natural talent for shooting and a drive to score, but he is not a hard worker at all and extremely moody in a bad way where failure makes him fail more instead of motivating him to improve.
 
Auston Marlander said:
Dispute what many Habs fans will tell you, that's exactly who he is. Some hot streaks where he racks up PP goals, then garbe for 1/5 of the season.

Lethal shot, mediocre NHL player
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Where have you been hearing these Habs fans' voices, and what exactly have they been telling you?

The reality is most Habs fans were thrilled to get Laine for almost nothing, for a salary we had plenty of room to afford. His potential was undeniable, as was the risk. Since then, we've seen both. His shot has been a game-changer, but he's also been useless in many games and a handicap with the puck. I'd estimate 95% of Montreal fans know what they're getting with him, for better or worse.
 
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My personal take is that he was never the same after the Mccabe hit. His rookie season was magical. He would walk through defenders, score from distance, and handle the puck with confidence. It pretty much ended with that hit.

 
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I feel like it’s tougher to just be a 40 goal guy now, too. If a shot is literally all you have, opponents will shut you down better now, and your team will notice the analytics and move you down the lineup quickly. 40 goals today is like 30 in the ‘90s, and I feel like someone like Jeff O’Neill maybe got away with shit that wouldn’t pass today. He’s just an example, maybe his game was better than I recall, but you know what I mean? There used to be less scrutiny as long as you scored goals, now teams are more nuanced in what they’re expecting.

Laine strikes me as a dude I might like more as a person than a hockey player.
 
I think it's a combination of things but one thing ive noticed is that he's a lot more frail than he was before. Laine has next to no muscle mass in a lot of his pictures, he really seems like a guy who was worn out and didn't do any strength work for 2 years. Considering the circumstances, I'm not surprised, but Laine looks very, very sickly.
 
No matter how many videos Laine posts in the summer of him working out with NFL players running around a field, he just doesn’t seem to have the work ethic or attitude.

IMO, what Laine lacks is a basic understanding of his role. He needs to know he isn’t the same player he was when he was younger with loads of potential. He’s a streaky one dimension winger with a cannon of a shot. Once he stops talking and acting like he’s on Matthews’ or whoever’s level, the better his game will be.
 
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S1N4TR4 said:
Laine has just 6 points in his last 14 games… 2 goals in his last 16 games.

while averaging barely 13 minutes TOI in that 14 game span.

over his last 2 seasons he has played in a total of 52 games out of a possible 164.

in those 52 games, he has 33 points. over an 82 game season, he’d be on pace for just 52 points.

wowza.

8.7 million dollar cap hit.

such a weird career.
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He has 6 points in last 6 games and 24 in his 34 games. Habs record with him in the lineup brought them from lottery guarantee to wildcard. He's no star but not too bad. Habs PP leveled up with him big time.
 
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I hear that every summer Patrik Laine works extremely hard on his skating with private sessions with one of the best skating coaches in the world...

...oh wait. I didn't hear that at all.
 
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