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Patrik Laine’s falloff is wild

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I'll be the first to admit I was wrong when I watched him in his rookie+sophomore seasons....I legit thought he would take a run at ovechkin for consistent 50+goal seasons....man what a take looking back
 
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Glad he go away from Columbus and that loser culture they have, only to play good for one month and then take a giant shit the rest of season as is tradition. Turns out they are better without him
 
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Junohockeyfan said:
Was Laine just as lazy a player when he was a Jet? I cannot tell if its his knee injury or if its effort level. He’s slow and disengaged.

Jets fans??
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He's always been slow as f*** and seems to become gassed very easily. He just isn't able to play at the pace others in the NHL are.

He's essentially a power play specialist, because 5 vs 5 he's 90% of the time way too gassed to be able to be a real scoring threat. On top of that he's a big guy, but still loses most physical battles it seems like. Also his stick handling is atrocious.
 
He's doing pretty well under the circumstances I would say. Obviously nowhere near what his contract pays him but that's not really the issue of a rebuilding team who got paid to take him. His next one, if he continues playing will obviously be much different.

He missed basically a full year, finally worked his way back, and then had a devastating injury before the season even started and had to work all the way back again.

He has certainly not been used properly on MTL, mostly because they don't have the team to support him. There's no way he should be with scrubs like Newhook who can't execute a play. His place at this point in his career is probably similar to Drouin; middle 6 exploitation scorer and PP guy. He still has one of the best shots in the league.
 
Nogatco Rd said:
Isn’t that pretty much par for the course for his career at this point though? The initial hot streak when he got back from his injury was exciting, been like 7 or 8 years since he’s had sustained success though.

Not sure what his deal is but hope he’s able to find fulfillment whether or not that’s on a hockey rink.
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I've always been underwhelmed when I've seen him play. Excellent shot, excellent size but not much all.
 
OilersFanatics505 said:
Man the Canadiens fans were wild when he was playing well… where did they go?
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I can't even comprehend comments like this. I can't tell if they want the people excited about a player doing well to not exist, or if they want them to persist when they're no longer doing well..? Maybe online toxicity has just burrowed too far into their brains. Some interesting thinkers on here for sure.
 
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That’s who he is and who he has been for a long time. He started as a promising elite goal scorer for 25 calendar months at the beginning of his career (October 2016-November 2018) and it’s convinced a lot of supposedly knowledgeable people to continue granting him chances until at least his early 30s. We’ve seen it before and we’ll see it again. He’s getting paid either way.
 
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Doom Bot said:
He's doing pretty well under the circumstances I would say. Obviously nowhere near what his contract pays him but that's not really the issue of a rebuilding team who got paid to take him. His next one, if he continues playing will obviously be much different.

He missed basically a full year, finally worked his way back, and then had a devastating injury before the season even started and had to work all the way back again.

He has certainly not been used properly on MTL, mostly because they don't have the team to support him. There's no way he should be with scrubs like Newhook who can't execute a play. His place at this point in his career is probably similar to Drouin; middle 6 exploitation scorer and PP guy. He still has one of the best shots in the league.
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So many excuses when the simple explanation is he’s lazy and not that good

Also why is DOOM not all caps
 
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Doom Bot said:
I can't even comprehend comments like this. I can't tell if they want the people excited about a player doing well to not exist, or if they want them to persist when they're no longer doing well..? Maybe online toxicity has just burrowed too far into their brains. Some interesting thinkers on here for sure.
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Exited that a players doing well and proclaiming him a 40 goal scorer in a week are two very different things friend.

PLEASE deny that people were saying that. That thread was epic I would be glad to stroll down it again 🤣
 
Sasha Orlov said:
So many excuses when the simple explanation is he’s lazy and not that good

Also why is DOOM not all caps
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Well, first of all the excuses are pretty valid, he wasn't even expected to play a game this season after his injury. Almost no one comes back from the amount of time off he's had and reaches anywhere near their previous level.

Secondly, the guy had to have a draft pick added to him to be worth f***ing Jordan Harris. The expectations are so low that I don't even see the point of the discourse.

Yes, Laine is lazy. No, he is not as good as he was expected to be as a young player. Who cares? He's filling a roster spot on a team that currently has Alex Newhook and Owen Beck in their top 6. Laine likely won't even be in the NHL after next season. A few exciting moments after he returned are already worth more than anything Jordan Harris will do in his career.

I mean, if you're the guy who gave him 9 million dollars, I can see why you would be pissed, but there's a reason that guy is no longer a GM. If you were expecting big things this season, out of a Patrik Laine who is broken both mentally and physically, then you're just a fool.
 
SteelCityCannon said:
Exited that a players doing well and proclaiming him a 40 goal scorer in a week are two very different things friend.

PLEASE deny that people were saying that. That thread was epic I would be glad to stroll down it again 🤣
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People say a lot of things on the internet. I don't understand why it's important to you. I can't imagine caring about what a bunch of people on the internet say about their teams player.
 
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Well, first of all the excuses are pretty valid, he wasn't even expected to play a game this season after his injury. Almost no one comes back from the amount of time off he's had and reaches anywhere near their previous level.

Secondly, the guy had to have a draft pick added to him to be worth f***ing Jordan Harris. The expectations are so low that I don't even see the point of the discourse.

Yes, Laine is lazy. No, he is not as good as he was expected to be as a young player. Who cares? He's filling a roster spot on a team that currently has Alex Newhook and Owen Beck in their top 6. Laine likely won't even be in the NHL after next season. A few exciting moments after he returned are already worth more than anything Jordan Harris will do in his career.

I mean, if you're the guy who gave him 9 million dollars, I can see why you would be pissed, but there's a reason that guy is no longer a GM. If you were expecting big things this season, out of a Patrik Laine who is broken both mentally and physically, then you're just a fool.
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If your entire point is that the trade wasn’t bad then I agree

However, he is not a good player

Also he was bad before the injury too, hence why CBJ paid someone to take him
 
OilersFanatics505 said:
Man the Canadiens fans were wild when he was playing well… where did they go?
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only took to the middle page 3 of the thread for the sanctimonious, smarmy, shit posts to begin.
Laine had a ridiculously good start and the habs power play took off with him back in the lineup, but his deficiencies are apparent and he still looks injured. A quick glance at his point totals and they're fine for a 2nd line winger. He is on pace for about 35 goals and 60 pts.
I agree with many that he needs a line driver and Dach never provided that. In fact him and Dach are not only injury prone, but not 200 foot players who can skate, and because of that, frequently in St Louis' doghouse with reduced minutes.
The fact Dach is out again, and Laine is so streaky has basically killed the habs cinderella WC chase imo.
As some have posted, they are a one line team; an excellent line but only 1 line - and Hutson. All 4, 25 or younger.

I didn't know much about Laine before he joined the habs, and I think next year will be the determining factor if they decide to re-sign him. It certainly won't be for 8 mill +.
I also believe Hughes and Gorton have given up the idea of Dach as a 2C and will experiment with him on the wing while trying to find that 2C - either a young guy in a big trade, UFA or a placeholder, older C until Hage or whoever they draft this summer is ready.
I think they pair Laine with Demidov and TBD next season.
It was low risk gamble for the habs to trade for him. They can afford the financial risk and also got a 2nd rounder out of it.
 
pekka55 said:
He's always been slow as f*** and seems to become gassed very easily. He just isn't able to play at the pace others in the NHL are.

He's essentially a power play specialist, because 5 vs 5 he's 90% of the time way too gassed to be able to be a real scoring threat. On top of that he's a big guy, but still loses most physical battles it seems like. Also his stick handling is atrocious.
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Was this the same outcome when he was a Jet?
 
We are firmly in "shame on me" territory for any team that gives him a big contract.

He's not going to change.
 
Svencouver said:
Half of that Finnish Junior team was hexed by the remains of an old pharoah. The trio of Juolevi, Laine, and Puljujarvi seem bonded by fate in some way to suck
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I believe it's called the Fornite hex.

Nobody could have seen this Laine fall off happening, and by nobody I mean everybody.
 
As I said in the offseason, it's a terrible idea to have this guy on a rebuilding team. Ya he's good player but there's just too much smoke for there not to be a fire regarding his shitty work habits and attitude. You don't want that in the locker room when you're trying to build towards something. Is some hollow offense and a 2nd round pick really worth the risk? Not to me.
 
He had the perfect fit in Winnipeg and then he went and sabotaged himself due to his ego of wanting to play on the first line if I remember right. Columbus and Montreal don't/didn't fit him. There is teams that do fit him though and he needs to go to those teams to get back to the level he was on the Jets.
 
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