Proposal: Patrick Kane to NYR

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i dunno how the rangers fans think this is such a bad deal. Kakko who may just be a decent player but would be the prize of the return, ludkvist who is now on the ouside looking in for a RD on the rangers and hasnt been great, geogiev is a guy, and a late 1st rounder for a top 10 players in the league locked up at 5.75 for 2 playoff runs.
 
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i dunno how the rangers fans think this is such a bad deal. Kakko who may just be a decent player but would be the prize of the return, ludkvist who is now on the ouside looking in for a RD on the rangers and hasnt been great, geogiev is a guy, and a late 1st rounder for a top 10 players in the league locked up at 5.75 for 2 playoff runs.
Its all about need. He plays the position thats absolutely last in club needs.
 

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I don't care how it gets done as a Hawks fan. And obviously I want Kane to stay here in Chicago his entire career. BUT, as a hockey fan, I want to see Kane and Panarin make magic together again.
 

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I mean really ... "Showtime" coming to NYC is a match made in heaven especially with Panarin waiting to rekindle the magic.
This could very well spell a Cup for the Rangers this year if not next.
What is that worth?
Or you remain cautious and keep your assets and don't win a Cup and continue to make the playoffs most years .....
 
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I mean really ... "Showtime" coming to NYC is a match made in heaven especially with Panarin waiting to rekindle the magic.
This could very well spell a Cup for the Rangers this year if not next.
What is that worth?
Or you remain cautious and keep your assets and don't win a Cup and continue to make the playoffs most years .....
Or it could gut the team of young talent while not addressing any of the teams needs that are holding them back.
 
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DelZottoHitTheNetJK

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It's definitely something the Rangers need to look into. I'd be willing to part with Kakko, this year's 1st, and Lundkvist +.

Everyone's talking about needs... The rangers need another dynamic forward to help them hold onto the puck so they're not defending as much or giving up as many shots. I don't know how you could argue against reuniting Kane and Panarin. Not to mention the playoff and cup experience he has as the cherry on top. It's a no brainer.

The Rangers also have additional assets to acquire a faceoff specialist and another defenseman. Getting Kane doesn't = not addressing other flaws on the roster. We can do both.

Ultimately, what it comes down to is this: when you have a goalie having a season as good as Igor, bringing in the Ryan Clowes and Roman Hamrliks of the world at the deadline is not enough. The Rangers need to learn from the felony grade mismanagement of Lundqvists reign in NY. When you have the best goalie in the world, a top 5 winger and a top 5 defenseman with Kreider having a career year, the time is now. Get it done Drury
 

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It's definitely something the Rangers need to look into. I'd be willing to part with Kakko, this year's 1st, and Lundkvist +.

Everyone's talking about needs... The rangers need another dynamic forward to help them hold onto the puck so they're not defending as much or giving up as many shots. I don't know how you could argue against reuniting Kane and Panarin. Not to mention the playoff and cup experience he has as the cherry on top. It's a no brainer.

The Rangers also have additional assets to acquire a faceoff specialist and another defenseman. Getting Kane doesn't = not addressing other flaws on the roster. We can do both.

Ultimately, what it comes down to is this: when you have a goalie having a season as good as Igor, bringing in the Ryan Clowes and Roman Hamrliks of the world at the deadline is not enough. The Rangers need to learn from the felony grade mismanagement of Lundqvists reign in NY. When you have the best goalie in the world, a top 5 winger and a top 5 defenseman with Kreider having a career year, the time is now. Get it done Drury
The only part of this trade I don’t particularly care for is Kaako. Jury is still out in him. I am just wondering if there is another forward such as Chytil or Kravtsov (or both) that can be included instead of Kaako
 

DelZottoHitTheNetJK

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The only part of this trade I don’t particularly care for is Kaako. Jury is still out in him. I am just wondering if there is another forward such as Chytil or Kravtsov (or both) that can be included instead of Kaako

Don't think Chytil or Krav would move the needle for Chicago but if it did I'd much rather that than Kakko
 

Matt Rentfree

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So I’m not going to flame or am I going to offer a counter, but the way I see your proposal is this:

You’ve got a 33 year old Patrick Kane on the second to last year of a massive contract. What you’re offering is a young player who hasn’t lived up to expectation in Kaako, an overall subpar goalie in Georgiev, a pretty underwhelming piece in 25 year old Nils Lundqvist, a low 1st and a low 2nd.

Now obviously Kane is past his prime but is still the Blackhawks franchise player and still puts up superstar numbers. And he is “only” 33 with likely many productive years ahead. Obviously the Blackhawks are in a re building situation, but to get a player of Kane’s caliber from that franchise, the offer is going to have to come with more somewhat guaranteed and/or blue chip pieces. This doesn’t even get to the fact that you propose the Blackhawks eating 5 mil in dead cap for a year.

I just can’t not see far better offers coming along from a contender that involve at least one blue chip prospect plus a 1st if that trade gets made this year.
Man, that was a lovely nap! Who is president now in 2026?
 

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You might as well throw another 1st to Arizona to eat another 50%, if you're offering that load for Kane
 

Machinehead

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I just wanna see how may goals get scored against a Panarin-Strome-Kane line.

Hockey is dead and they sit on its corpse like a throne.
 

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So I’m not going to flame or am I going to offer a counter, but the way I see your proposal is this:

You’ve got a 33 year old Patrick Kane on the second to last year of a massive contract. What you’re offering is a young player who hasn’t lived up to expectation in Kaako, an overall subpar goalie in Georgiev, a pretty underwhelming piece in 25 year old Nils Lundqvist, a low 1st and a low 2nd.

Now obviously Kane is past his prime but is still the Blackhawks franchise player and still puts up superstar numbers. And he is “only” 33 with likely many productive years ahead. Obviously the Blackhawks are in a re building situation, but to get a player of Kane’s caliber from that franchise, the offer is going to have to come with more somewhat guaranteed and/or blue chip pieces. This doesn’t even get to the fact that you propose the Blackhawks eating 5 mil in dead cap for a year.

I just can’t not see far better offers coming along from a contender that involve at least one blue chip prospect plus a 1st if that trade gets made this year.

I get all of this but Nils Lundqvist is only 21 (not 25) and it's a pretty reasonable offer if the black Hawks think he and Kakko can develop into something.
 

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i dunno how the rangers fans think this is such a bad deal. Kakko who may just be a decent player but would be the prize of the return, ludkvist who is now on the ouside looking in for a RD on the rangers and hasnt been great, geogiev is a guy, and a late 1st rounder for a top 10 players in the league locked up at 5.75 for 2 playoff runs.

you would think it’s a bad deal too if the tables were reversed. Kakko is only 20 years old.
 

WarLax

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He's above his career PPG this year and last with little help. He's as good as he ever was.

Not just that, but he has the same number of points as Panarin in only 2 more games.

This playing for what is (was?) the worst scoring 5v5 team in the league.

I'd say Kaner is still pretty damn good.

....I'd only want to move him if Davidson commits to a full tear down and trades everything not bolted to the floor with a full NMC. Team is gonna be awful hard to watch without him these next years.
 

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