Proposal: Patrick Kane to NYR

[cwgatti]

the #NYR should be 100% after Patrick Kane 1/2 retained. Would Kakko, Georgiev, Lundqvist, a 1st & 2nd rd pick get it done?

If not, please suggest what you think would...

Flame away.

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[CharasLazyWrister]

So I’m not going to flame or am I going to offer a counter, but the way I see your proposal is this:

You’ve got a 33 year old Patrick Kane on the second to last year of a massive contract. What you’re offering is a young player who hasn’t lived up to expectation in Kaako, an overall subpar goalie in Georgiev, a pretty underwhelming piece in 25 year old Nils Lundqvist, a low 1st and a low 2nd.

Now obviously Kane is past his prime but is still the Blackhawks franchise player and still puts up superstar numbers. And he is “only” 33 with likely many productive years ahead. Obviously the Blackhawks are in a re building situation, but to get a player of Kane’s caliber from that franchise, the offer is going to have to come with more somewhat guaranteed and/or blue chip pieces. This doesn’t even get to the fact that you propose the Blackhawks eating 5 mil in dead cap for a year.

I just can’t not see far better offers coming along from a contender that involve at least one blue chip prospect plus a 1st if that trade gets made this year.

 

[Mrfenn92]

This has been covered ad nauseam.

 

[izzy]

nils lundqvist is not 25

 

[Coffee]

Isn't the reason Rangers are out on Miller because they don't want to gut the future? Wouldn't they have to gut even MORE for Kane?


I feel like Rangers are probably more interested in cheaper options here

 

[Kupo]

the #NYR should be 100% after Patrick Kane 1/2 retained. Would Kakko, Georgiev, Lundqvist, a 1st & 2nd rd pick get it done?

If not, please suggest what you think would...

Flame away.

You’ve been posting here for over 15 years and still don’t understand how the salary cap works.

We can’t afford Kane next season. We’re not giving up KK+Nils+1st+2nd for a few months of Kane.

Please, for all that is holy in this world, never create another proposal again.

 

[cwede]

the #NYR should be 100% after Patrick Kane 1/2 retained. Would Kakko, Georgiev, Lundqvist, a 1st & 2nd rd pick get it done?
If not, please suggest what you think would...
Flame away.

obscene overpay for a guy with only 1 season after this

remove Kakko and the 2nd, i still think its too much,

but Georgie, Nils and a 1st approximates some market precedents

 

[Mrfenn92]

Lol

 

[GAGLine]

the #NYR should be 100% after Patrick Kane 1/2 retained. Would Kakko, Georgiev, Lundqvist, a 1st & 2nd rd pick get it done?

If not, please suggest what you think would...

Flame away.

Kane is the last person the Rangers should target. He will cost too much to acquire, especially at 50%. And if we are adding anyone with a significant cap hit, it needs to be a center, not another winger. If we wanted to pay a winger, we could have just kept Buch.

 

[5cotland]

You’ve got a 33 year old Patrick Kane on the second to last year of a massive contract. What you’re offering is a young player who hasn’t lived up to expectation in Kaako, an overall subpar goalie in Georgiev, a pretty underwhelming piece in 25 year old Nils Lundqvist, a low 1st and a low 2nd.

Now obviously Kane is past his prime but is still the Blackhawks franchise player and still puts up superstar numbers. And he is “only” 33 with likely many productive years ahead. Obviously the Blackhawks are in a re building situation, but to get a player of Kane’s caliber from that franchise, the offer is going to have to come with more somewhat guaranteed and/or blue chip pieces. This doesn’t even get to the fact that you propose the Blackhawks eating 5 mil in dead cap for a year.

I just can’t not see far better offers coming along from a contender that involve at least one blue chip prospect plus a 1st if that trade gets made this year.

Bruh.....

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

So I’m not going to flame or am I going to offer a counter, but the way I see your proposal is this:

You’ve got a 33 year old Patrick Kane on the second to last year of a massive contract. What you’re offering is a young player who hasn’t lived up to expectation in Kaako, an overall subpar goalie in Georgiev, a pretty underwhelming piece in 25 year old Nils Lundqvist, a low 1st and a low 2nd.

Now obviously Kane is past his prime but is still the Blackhawks franchise player and still puts up superstar numbers. And he is “only” 33 with likely many productive years ahead. Obviously the Blackhawks are in a re building situation, but to get a player of Kane’s caliber from that franchise, the offer is going to have to come with more somewhat guaranteed and/or blue chip pieces. This doesn’t even get to the fact that you propose the Blackhawks eating 5 mil in dead cap for a year.

I just can’t not see far better offers coming along from a contender that involve at least one blue chip prospect plus a 1st if that trade gets made this year.

Nils is 21 not 25

 

[MNRube]

As a neutral fan, that is a substantial package. Have to think it at least gets Chicago’s attention

 

[Mrfenn92]

As a neutral fan, that is a substantial package. Have to think it at least gets Chicago’s attention

For this hawks fan it’s a yes but it won’t be offered

 

[bernmeister]

the #NYR should be 100% after Patrick Kane 1/2 retained. Would Kakko, Georgiev, Lundqvist, a 1st & 2nd rd pick get it done?

If not, please suggest what you think would...

Flame away.

NO

Isn't the reason Rangers are out on Miller because they don't want to gut the future? Wouldn't they have to gut even MORE for Kane?


I feel like Rangers are probably more interested in cheaper options here

yes

You’ve been posting here for over 15 years and still don’t understand how the salary cap works.

We can’t afford Kane next season. We’re not giving up KK+Nils+1st+2nd for a few months of Kane.

Please, for all that is holy in this world, never create another proposal again.

this^

obscene overpay for a guy with only 1 season after this

remove Kakko and the 2nd, i still think its too much,

but Georgie, Nils and a 1st approximates some market precedents

concur but cap makes value irrelevant

Kane is the last person the Rangers should target. He will cost too much to acquire, especially at 50%. And if we are adding anyone with a significant cap hit, it needs to be a center, not another winger. If we wanted to pay a winger, we could have just kept Buch.

yes and we could not even afford that

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Kane is the last thing the Rangers need. Center and 6th/7th D are the needs.

 

[UnSandvich]

No thanks. Not interested in trading what it'd cost, nor tbh am i interested in having anyone from that Cup team on the NYR roster. To say nothing of how badly it'd also mess up our cap

 

[Hockey Gamer]

This is such a plausible deniability troll proposal just to incite drama. No analysis behind this OP? "Flame away"? Guilty conscience already lol? Please.

 

[pld459666]

the #NYR should be 100% after Patrick Kane 1/2 retained. Would Kakko, Georgiev, Lundqvist, a 1st & 2nd rd pick get it done?

If not, please suggest what you think would...

Flame away.

Hard pass.

 

[One Winged Angel]

When did Nils Lundkvist pull a Danny Almonte?

Or am I missing something here?

 

[cwgatti]

You’ve been posting here for over 15 years and still don’t understand how the salary cap works.

We can’t afford Kane next season. We’re not giving up KK+Nils+1st+2nd for a few months of Kane.

Please, for all that is holy in this world, never create another proposal again.

I suggested salary retention. Does Kane wanna stick around for a re-build? If we are considering JT Miller, why would a salary retained Kane be any different? I think you are not considering that Dolan wants to win NOW. Kane on the other side of Panarin again would be the BEST option for the NYR on the trade market and it is not even close. Chicago needs to rebuild. The Hawks have a ton of D prospects so the NYR may have to include Othmann...

 

[cwgatti]

As a neutral fan, that is a substantial package. Have to think it at least gets Chicago’s attention

Exactly why I proposed it. This is a copycat league. The success the NYR are seeing already should be more than enough motivation. Huge changes happening in Chicago. I think that I proposed a logical and honest trade here. Although Georgiev is a rapidly declining asset.

 

[cwgatti]

The NYR do need a center, but they also need a RW. Someone mentioned Buchnevich earlier. That boat has sailed. A serious left shot sniper on the right circle of the power play? hoo boy.

 

[GAGLine]

I suggested salary retention. Does Kane wanna stick around for a re-build? If we are considering JT Miller, why would a salary retained Kane be any different?

Because Kane can't play center. Also, the cost for Kane @ 50% will be very high, and how much are we paying him on this next contract? We aren't going to have any more cap space in 2023.

 

[GAGLine]

The NYR do need a center, but they also need a RW. Someone mentioned Buchnevich earlier. That boat has sailed. A serious left shot sniper on the right circle of the power play? hoo boy.

We need a RW this year. Kane would push Kakko or Laf to the 3rd line, which is not what this team needs long term.

 

[Kupo]

I suggested salary retention. Does Kane wanna stick around for a re-build? If we are considering JT Miller, why would a salary retained Kane be any different? I think you are not considering that Dolan wants to win NOW.

Miller @50% is a 2.6M cap hit. Kane @50% is 5.75M. Who’s our 2C next season? And 4C? Blais needs a new contract. We need a back up goalie. We’ll have about 10M in space with a number of holes to fill. How are you managing to do so when you’re burning about 60% of your cap space on Kane?

The NYR do need a center, but they also need a RW. Someone mentioned Buchnevich earlier. That boat has sailed. A serious left shot sniper on the right circle of the power play? hoo boy.

I’ll ask again, do you actually watch hockey? The Rangers need help 5v5. They don’t need help on the PP.