Roster Moves: (Part II) Gostisbehere, 2022 2nd, 2022 7th to AZ, cap relief in return

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

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Flyers deal Shayne Gostisbehere plus draft picks to Arizona Coyotes - The Morning Call (mcall.com)

Fletcher basically called around the entire NHL to work the best deal possible but potential takers were few and far between.

So why didn’t it work out here for Ghost?

“Injuries certainly impacted him,’' Fletcher said during a media Zoom call. “My first season when I came in he wasn’t a hundred percent. This (2021) was the first year he was better, he tried to regain his timing and I think he was playing better.’'

The Pembroke Pines, Fla. native did post nine goals and 20 points in 41 games. Certainly nothing close to his 2015-16 freshman year (17 goals, 46 points) or 2017-18 (13 goals, 65 points), but respectable.

“I think the defense corps (on the Flyers) has probably improved,’' Fletcher noted. “Some of the young players have emerged and gotten better. But certainly, injuries impacted him and now we have the flat salary cap. You’ve seen some movement (of players) through expansion already ... there’s not a lot of liquidity; I think you will see a lot of moving parts for various reasons. Good players going each way.’'​

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

We wouldn't be where we are without Kev.

 

[DancingPanther]

And there it is again. Flat cap. The end all be all excuse for poor decision making.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Yeah, that's exactly it... guess you've never dealt with leverage as part of a bargaining position.

Please. You really think that if the Flyers hadn't waived him his trade price would have been different? Come on. If any team wanted him, they could have snapped him up for free. Every team in the league passed. No one wanted him. That's why he had negative trade value.

 

[Tripod]

Please. You really think that if the Flyers hadn't waived him his trade price would have been different? Come on. If any team wanted him, they could have snapped him up for free. Every team in the league passed. No one wanted him. That's why he had negative trade value.

We tried to trade Ghost last summer too(pre waiving)...no takers.

 

[Magua]

The thought of Fletcher acquiring another 2nd rounder to make up for it is a humorous thought. Isn't it pretty to think so?

 

[Larry44]

The thought of Fletcher acquiring another 2nd rounder to make up for it is a humorous thought. Isn't it pretty to think so?

He should be able to get at least a 2nd for Giroux at the deadline too.

 

[Curufinwe]

We tried to trade Ghost last summer too(pre waiving)...no takers.

Not even Ottawa who had 3 2nds

 

[deadhead]

We had to pay to dump Ghost.
We can't find anyone who'd take JVR or Voracek off our hands for less than our 1st rd pick it seems.
Welcome to the flat cap world.
It's not just the Flyers, wait and see the deals that go down this week, and the low balls offered to FAs once the few "hot" items are off the table.

Forget big moves the next two years unless they trade/let walk G and/or Couts. There's no money.
I expect the one big move is to extend Sanheim long-term or trade him, because bridging him to his UFA years doesn't make sense.

Maybe JVR can be moved next year with one year left on his deal, Voracek only if he rebounds to his 2019-20 form when he actually played defense.

 

[BernieParent]

He should be able to get at least a 2nd for Giroux at the deadline too.

Will probably only have to include a 5th or 6th to move Giroux.

 

[Hurricane28]

Wonder if this gets to a part III

 

[BlackandOrange]

Devastating trade, pushes Hagg up and onto the depth chart and removes a defender at a good cap hit. Ghost for nothing is bad, and Ghost+ for nothing is worse.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

This is all Kevin hayes fault, f*** you kevdog

 

[Lindberg]

I love how being on pace for 18 games is just "meh" to him.

 

[FLYguy3911]

The thought of Fletcher acquiring another 2nd rounder to make up for it is a humorous thought. Isn't it pretty to think so?

He's going to trade back tomorrow and people will say we got rid of Ghost's contract for free.

 

[Swic21]

I don’t think there was a player this fan base was more divided on. Some love him, some hate him. I had a Ghost jersey, and will always appreciate what he was here. It’s a bad look giving up the picks and Ghost for nothing, but I get it. Of JVR, Jake, and Ghost, I was willing to lose Ghost. The irony is, the defense is much much worse without him. I’ll sit back and trust Chuck to replace him.

 

[Tarpongg]

He's going to trade back tomorrow and people will say we got rid of Ghost's contract for free.

Of all the takes, the “if you just pretend Chuck gave Nashville a 2nd and 7th in the Ellis trade it’s not that bad” is the one that makes me want to break my phone.

 

[deadhead]

He's going to trade back tomorrow and people will say we got rid of Ghost's contract for free.

Well, is there a RHD or true center available at #13?
If not, then trading back is probably a smart move.

 

[BernieParent]

The thought of Fletcher acquiring another 2nd rounder to make up for it is a humorous thought. Isn't it pretty to think so?

Of course he can get a 2nd; however, it will cost him a 1st and a 7th.

 

[Lindberg]

Well, is there a RHD or true center available at #13?
If not, then trading back is probably a smart move.

Sigh. You literally just proved his point.

 

[dats81]

I'm really waiting to see what bonafide top-4 free agent D are signing for this offseason in terms of cap percentage. One can argue that it was time to cut loose Ghost and reshape the D with focus and defensive play but that also comes at a cost.

Larsson looks like a possible steal for what he signed for but Savard and Suter may ask for a fortune now. Those guys get to pick their favourite destination or you overpay grossly.

Personally, I'd rather have retained on Ghost to not hand over the 2nd rounder.

 

[duffy9748]

Adding picks to move him only makes sense if Fletcher lands a much better replacement. It’s clear as day what the rest of the league thinks of Ghost as well though so not sure how some can still call him a top pair/top 4 defenseman.

 

[mja]

Adding picks to move him only makes sense if Fletcher lands a much better replacement. It’s clear as day what the rest of the league thinks of Ghost as well though so not sure how some can still call him a top pair/top 4 defenseman.

Whether or not the league thinks he’s a top 4 defenseman is completely irrelevant in determining whether or not he is in fact a top 4 defenseman.

 

[Hockeypete49]

He should be able to get at least a 2nd for Giroux at the deadline too.

Chuck clearly got caught with his pants down and it was a total embarrassment. Ghost should have been moved during the regular season, What the frig is our next move...give Jake and picks for futures! So far the nightmare season continues.

 

[BillDineen]

Waiving him was moronic as well