GDT: Panthers @ Canes 2/7/14 - 7 PM

[nobuddy]

CAROLINA
Jiri Tlusty - Eric Staal - Alexander Semin
Jeff Skinner - Jordan Staal - Elias Lindholm
Nathan Gerbe - Manny Malhotra - Pat Dwyer
Drayson Bowman - Riley Nash - Tuomo Ruutu

Andrej Sekera - Justin Faulk
Ron Hainsey - John-Michael Liles
Jay Harrison - Brett Bellemore

Anton Khudobin
Cam Ward


FLORIDA
Sean Bergenheim - Sasha Barkov - Brad Boyes
Jonathan Huberdeau - Nick Bjugstad - Scottie Upshall
Tomas Fleischmann - Marcel Goc - Tomas Kopecky
Jesse Winchester - Shawn Matthias - Scott Gomez

Brian Campbell - Tom Gilbert
Ed Jovanovski - Erik Gudbranson
Mike Weaver - Dmitri Kulikov

Tim Thomas​

The Hurricanes enter play tonight having played the fewest games of any team in the National Hockey League. They sit 5 points out of a playoff spot with three games in hand. They have little room for error, as they chase down super elite hockey squads like the New York Rangers, Philadelphia Flyers, Detroit Red Wings... and some team from somewhere called "Columbus". Will have to do research on that to verify. Obviously, the strategy remains the same. Get pucks deep, play our game, go to the dirty areas, do the little things, call our time out at the exact right time in the exact right situation, play North-South hockey, and we should come out of tonight with two points in our back pocket.

The opponent tonight? A team that boasts the longest average last name for left wingers in the entire league. In goal they typically throw out Rep. Tim Thomas (R-MI). The last time the two teams met, Alex Semin was good for two goals, leading the Hurricanes to a 3-1 victory over their former Southeast Division foes. What will happen tonight? You will have to watch on FS-Carolinas or listen on 99.9FM The Fan ESPN Radio to find out.

...or read this thread and watch the season be declared over after a 0-0 first period in which the Panthers outshoot the Canes 10-9.

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[Boom Boom Apathy]

Hey WTF. A while back you posted a puck possession chart that I think showed how teams stacked up and how all the playoff teams/cup winners had the best numbers (it was one that had the team logos). Just curious, how does it look for the eastern conference for this season to date? Just wondering how the Canes stack up against the teams they are competing with for the playoffs (Det, CLB, Phil, NYR, WSH, etc..)

Obviously, that is what is happened in the past so winning games going forward is all that counts, just curious.

 

[nobuddy]

hey wtf. A while back you posted a puck possession chart that i think showed how teams stacked up and how all the playoff teams/cup winners had the best numbers (it was one that had the team logos). Just curious, how does it look for the eastern conference for this season to date? Just wondering how the canes stack up against the teams they are competing with for the playoffs (det, clb, phil, nyr, wsh, etc..)

obviously, that is what is happened in the past so winning games going forward is all that counts, just curious.

CF%:

CAR: 49.4
CBJ: 51.3
PHI: 49.1
WSH: 49.1
NYR: 52.6
DET: 51.2

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[Boom Boom Apathy]

CF%:

CAR: 49.4
CBJ: 51.3
PHI: 49.1
WSH: 49.1
NYR: 52.6
DET: 51.2

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As a person that doesn't religiously follow these things, I've seen people use CF% and Fenwick (FF%). What's the difference? And also seen these numbers used all 5v5 and something called "5v5 Close". Again, what is the difference and what is the significance of it?

Maybe there should be a separate "advanced stats" thread.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

A loss tonight REALLY sets of the moaning and groaning. Must win to keep me happy!

 

[nobuddy]

As a person that doesn't religiously follow these things, I've seen people use CF% and Fenwick (FF%). What's the difference? And also seen these numbers used all 5v5 and something called "5v5 Close". Again, what is the difference and what is the significance of it?

Maybe there should be a separate "advanced stats" thread.

Corsi is all shot attempts but Fenwick is all shot attempts except shots that get blocked. Apparently we have a lot of shots blocked as we go from 16th in CF% to to 25th in FF%.

The stats I gave you were 5v5 close.

In all situations we are 8th in CF% and 14th in FF%.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Corsi is all shot attempts but Fenwick is all shot attempts except shots that get blocked. Apparently we have a lot of shots blocked as we go from 16th in CF% to to 25th in FF%.

The stats I gave you were 5v5 close.

In all situations we are 8th in CF% and 14th in FF%.

thanks. I assume "close" mean the game is close? If so, I think that's probably the most valid, right? I would imagine being way behind or ahead changes a team's strategy.

Also, the FF% ranking seems to match pretty closely with the difference in overall GF/GA as only 7 teams in the NHL has a worse difference (even though that includes special teams)

 

[nobuddy]

thanks. I assume "close" mean the game is close? If so, I think that's probably the most valid, right? I would imagine being way behind or ahead changes a team's strategy.

Also, the FF% ranking seems to match pretty closely with the difference in overall GF/GA as only 7 teams in the NHL has a worse difference (even though that includes special teams)

Right but that correlation may not be as valid depending upon the context of PDO.

Like Toronto is dead last in the league in CF% but they're top five in PDO and thus they're ~12th-15th in the league.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Maybe there should be a separate "advanced stats" thread.

There's a whole forum

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

There's a whole forum

Yeah, I know that, but what I was suggesting is a Canes specific thread on this board aimed at the the Canes (the main forum thread is much more broad).

 

[tarheelhockey]

I know, I was just being an ass.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Right but that correlation may not be as valid depending upon the context of PDO.

Like Toronto is dead last in the league in CF% but they're top five in PDO and thus they're ~12th-15th in the league.

Thanks, So what the stats are saying is that teams that shoot more than their opponents in close games are usually more successful, but if they don't have that, they have to have a high shooting % and have good goaltending?

Go figure.

Interesting, that there are only 6 teams in the NHL with LESS Regular/OT wins than the Leafs. Similar to Washington, shoot outs and powerplay goals are saving their bacon (although they have a bit better Goaltending than WSH).

 

[What the Faulk]

Right but that correlation may not be as valid depending upon the context of PDO.

Like Toronto is dead last in the league in CF% but they're top five in PDO and thus they're ~12th-15th in the league.

And PDO is save percentage plus shooting percentage, and over the long long haul it normalizes close to one. If a team is running at, say, 104, they're generally running on good luck and will likely see things turn around at some point. Again, no guarantees, but there's a good chance.

Others like Pittsburgh will naturally run slightly higher, but not several points.

Their CF% on the year still isn't that great, below 50%, but since early December they've been consistently winning the possession battle. No surprise they've won more often than not.

 

[PaulProteus]

On the streaming "Storm Surge" broadcast just now, Tripp told a story about dissecting a chicken and having to reassemble the skeleton as a science project because he had to go to the Quebec Pee-Wee tournament and his girlfriend is French.

Amber Jaye: "Now, let's switch gears..."

 

[Novacane]

Please win. It'd be nice to go into the Olympic break with two wins.

 

[Wild Caniac]

Can't take a loss here.

 

[HisIceness]

JFWP noncaps

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

jfwp

 

[Zezima]

Going to the game tonight, don't get to go to many. Anyone know which parking section the players exit at?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Going to the game tonight, don't get to go to many. Anyone know which parking section the players exit at?

In case nobody else answers, I believe on the North end, but not 100% sure.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

jfwp

#nocaps

 

[What the Faulk]

In case nobody else answers, I believe on the North end, but not 100% sure.

It is. There should be a bunch of people standing outside by the gate where they exit from the guard thing. You can't miss it.

 

[caniac315]

I'm looking for a win tonight. And on a side note, please bring back the gift horse and get rid of the baby with the players dangling over commercial.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

I'm looking for a win tonight. And on a side note, please bring back the gift horse and get rid of the baby with the players dangling over commercial.

beep beep

 

[Stickpucker]

Gift horse can we have 2 points?