Value of: P.K. Subban Double Retention (2.25 AAV)

[HugeInTheShire]

I've thought PK would bring something back even if it was just a mid round pick, now I'm not sure he's worth the hassle of involving a 3rd team.
I think it's more likely they trade him and take a contract back, something like Subban @ 50% to Edmonton for Mike Smith and a 2nd

 

[Brodeur]

Not seeing a ton of demand for somebody like Subban among the playoff contenders. Either teams are well-stocked or have other needs. We'll see if there are injuries down the stretch and Subban is somebody's fallback plan.

Florida: Ekblad|Gudas|Montour
Tampa: Cernak|Rutta|Bogosian|Foote
Toronto: Brodie|Holl|Lyubushkin|Liljegren
Boston: McAvoy|Carlo|Clifton

Carolina: Pesce|DeAngelo|Bear
Pittsburgh: Letang|Marino|Ruhwedel|Friedman
NY Rangers: Fox|Trouba|Schneider|Lundkvist
Washington: Carlson|Schultz|Jensen

Colorado: Makar|Johnson|Murray?|Barron
St. Louis: Parayko|Faulk|Bortuzzo
Minnesota: Spurgeon|Dumba|Merrill?|Addison
Nashville: Carrier|Fabbro|Myers|Benning
Dallas: Heiskanen|Klingberg|Hakanpaa

Calgary: Tanev|Andersson|Gudbranson
Los Angeles: Doughty|Roy|Durzi|Walker
Edmonton: Barrie|Bouchard|Ceci
Vegas: Pietrangelo|Theodore?|Whitecloud

 

[Blackjack]

I've thought PK would bring something back even if it was just a mid round pick, now I'm not sure he's worth the hassle of involving a 3rd team.
I think it's more likely they trade him and take a contract back, something like Subban @ 50% to Edmonton for Mike Smith and a 2nd

Really don't want to be adding a contract that won't expire at the end of the season if all we're getting is a late 2nd out of it.

 

[banks]

He's a .4 ppg on a team going nowhere this year. Has SC experience, a RHD playing 19:19 rn and would probably fight fro time on the 2nd pairing in Tor. It wont be tremendous but it should be something. We can take back a contract or 2 s well if a decent return

That's all fair. And I'll be honest, I didn't know he was logging close to 20 minutes per game. So credit to him there. But I don't think I'd trust him anymore when he's slew footing someone every month. That's what I mean by hurting the team.

Maybe a team will pay something for him. And, like I said, I thought he still had decent value last year. But I, myself, wouldn't want my team to add him unless it was for cheap in free agency.

 

[LMFAO]

I wouldn’t take him at league minimum

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

This is a sad thread. PK was so much fun when he first came to Nashville. It's hard to absorb that he fell off so far so fast, so irreparably.

 

[Smitty426]

I wouldn’t take him at league minimum

Thats ok, I'm sure Fitz wont be negotiating with you.

 

[Smitty426]

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Does Tor do something if Van beats them tomorrow?

 

[japhi]

He is so slow and painful to watch now, but I can see him finding a new gear in the playoffs. I think for a fringe playoff team it would be worth the gamble @ a third or similar.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Really don't want to be adding a contract that won't expire at the end of the season if all we're getting is a late 2nd out of it.

I agree hopefully they could pull two 2nds or a 1st to take Smith but I don't know if Edmonton would bite.
I would also assume NJ would buy him out after the season assuming Bernier is good to go

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I really dislike Subban, but at 2.25m he has more value than a 3rd. He's bounced back a bit and can hold his own in a bottom pairing role.

 

[VanillaCoke]

3rd at best

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I really dislike Subban, but at 2.25m he has more value than a 3rd. He's bounced back a bit and can hold his own in a bottom pairing role.

The problem is giving up an additional asset to get a 3rd team involved.
If all you're getting is a 3rd for him is it worth giving up a 4th or 5th?
In my opinion, it's not worth it. If nobody wants to give a 2nd or prospect then ride out the rest of the year with him

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

The problem is giving up an additional asset to get a 3rd team involved.
If all you're getting is a 3rd for him is it worth giving up a 4th or 5th?
In my opinion, it's not worth it. If nobody wants to give a 2nd or prospect then ride out the rest of the year with him

I think you could probably get more than a 3rd, and just take cap $ instead of giving a pick.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

I think you could probably get more than a 3rd, and just take cap $ instead of giving a pick.

I'm hoping a 2nd or 2 if they take a contract back

 

[Eggtimer]

I can’t see anyone offering anything of value. Other option out there for less cost in my opinion. Maybe a dinosaur GM that thinks he has an once of his Norris ability is left and values experience… doubtful still.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

I'm hoping a 2nd or 2 if they take a contract back

I dont know about that, but if you took back Roussel, for example, I am sure AZ would launder PK at no additional cost

 

[57special]

Best thing about him is that he is a RHD.

 

[HabsForHire]

PK needs to come back with the habs to regain his groove
I would sign him 4.5 mil for the next 4 years

Thanks God your not our Gm

 

[Scintillating10]

PK faded fast after he left Montreal. I think he had one good year after Montreal.

 

[Zippy316]

I dont know about that, but if you took back Roussel, for example, I am sure AZ would launder PK at no additional cost

I think it’s more likely the Devils compensate the retaining team.

Something like, using Boston as an example to make it easier to follow:

To Boston: Subban @ 2.25 AAV
From Boston: Boston 2022 3rd

To Arizona : Devils 2022 6th
From Arizona: 50% retention on Subban at 4.5 AAV

To NJ: Boston 2022 3rd
From NJ: Devils 2022 6th and 50% retention on Subban at 9.0 AAV

Devils move up a couple rounds. Intermediary team gets compensated for retention from the Devils. Final team gets Subban for a 3rd (hopefully a late second). For the Devils it’s more of a hassle than value, but it would look good on them to give Subban a chance at the cup.

 

[2legit2quit]

I think it’s more likely the Devils compensate the retaining team.

Something like, using Boston as an example to make it easier to follow:

To Boston: Subban @ 2.25 AAV
From Boston: Boston 2022 3rd

To Arizona : Devils 2022 6th
From Arizona: 50% retention on Subban at 4.5 AAV

To NJ: Boston 2022 3rd
From NJ: Devils 2022 6th and 50% retention on Subban at 9.0 AAV

Devils move up a couple rounds. Intermediary team gets compensated for retention from the Devils. Final team gets Subban for a 3rd (hopefully a late second). For the Devils it’s more of a hassle than value, but it would look good on them to give Subban a chance at the cup.

This trade makes no sense

You've already sent the 6th round pick to Arizona, you can't send that pick to Boston.

 

[coopooter]

This trade makes no sense

You've already sent the 6th round pick to Arizona, you can't send that pick to Boston.

Why would Arizona use their last retention slot plus pay money for a 6th round pick

 

[Smitty426]

Why would Arizona use their last retention slot plus pay money for a 6th round pick

Buf
Sea
Ana
Det
Ott
Clmbs
Nash

 

[BatVader]

How’s this…

To WPG: Subban 50% retained, NJD ‘22 1st
to NJD: Schmidt