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Let's see how we are late September....
Owen Sound Attack 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II
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My guess is that Oke let Petrovski know that the possibility of trading him to a contender at the deadline would be something he would consider if the Petes are not in contention. It would be a no-brainer to deal him at the deadline if that were the case and get some high draft picks for future deals.
I agree with that thought but surely some of those assets end up getting sent out to bring in other pieces, no? DeGray is pretty big on having OA players and Waddick is now the only 05 at the moment. I'm not even sure Waddick makes the team. I suspect he looks to bring in one, likely two OAs now.
If no other moves for OAs come and we play the kids, I'm totally fine with that but that doesn't fit with DeGray's MO. I don't really love the idea of spending assets on bringing in pieces that won't be here in 26/27 when this team should be well positioned to compete. I don't want to see any moves that potentially hurt that team's chances.
I don't consider him an offensive dman either. He's a very solid two-way D in my opinion. The trouble here as I see it is the Attack's scoring from defense last year was:
Petrovski - 41 points
Rogers - 28 points
Leonard - 11 points
Greenberg - 10 points
Arnett - 9 points
Bedkowksi - 7 points
Smith - 4 points
Petrovski, Leonard and Greenberg are all gone. Scoring from the blueline is a glaring issue going into next year. PP QB is a role I think they have to look outside to find and I don't think a 5 forward PP is a good solution, at least not at the OHL level.
In response to your O/A question it's fact Dale places high value on them I will be shocked if we don't have minimum 2. I agree with above post lets see where we are at the end of Sept. A healthy Bedkowski and a year older Rogers could work. One thing I've learned is you can't always base assumptions on last season, players mature and improve yr to yr.
Is Greenberg for sure gone? Could he not return as an OA ? He had 10 points in 20 games last season.
Totally lots of race track to run before September but tough to look at the roster and picks situation as it stands and see two transactions to bring in OAs based on the prices right now that don't hurt you in your competitive window. I can't see DeGray not having the OAs on the roster as that doesn't fit with how he builds out his roster. Can you make those deals and balance the picks going out with picks coming in for some of the surplus pieces we may have? I think that's unlikely.
I try not to focus too much on past seasons but more so around projectability. Some players make big strides year over year but those aren't all that common. Looking at last year for some form of baseline I think is fair when assessing what you may have going into next season and what may be reasonable improvements. No disrespect to Rogers but he's now played three seasons in the league and on a pretty youthful/inexperienced blueline last year was pretty solidly a third pair D. I think he's more of a known quantity at this point and I'm not counting on him making the kind of leap that would be required for him to be a dependable top 4 option and capably running the PP. Right now he's squarely the top offensive option pending any further adds by a fairly wide margin.
That's my understanding, yes. He's technically able to return as an OA but I don't think he does. With Petrovski gone it's certainly easier to see a fit for him to return but I think that ship has sailed.
Yes I received conflicting information. Looks like he did want out but Pete’s had to convince they were the real deal
Greenberg is not gone yet; he could leave but the team wants the player to return, plan now is to keep him and bring in another OA.
I can't imagine they do this trade without knowing that he would be back next year.
Whether Lenny returns or not had no bearing on the trade .
JP requested a trade , they honored that .
Dale won't keep players who have no desire to play here .
I personally am not overly concerned, there is no doubt teams that have a sirplus of OA's that will be looking to find a home. Some may cost a pick or two but if we wait long enough they either deal for realitively cheap or the player gets released which most teams dont really like doing. Ive got some faith that if DD desires to fill the OA roles he can do it with players that compete but maybe arent the top end talent.
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Far from an offensive d man. Star 2 way. Should put up 50+pts with Pete’s next year, not sure on PP1, definitely on PK1
The OA market isn't all that great this year with a number of would be OAs moving on to the NCAA already. It's a bit of a thin market compared to years past and the prices currently appear to be high for fairly mid tier caliber players as a result. I think it will be more expensive than we think to bring in two OAs.
Won't totally disagree but I could see DD trading for one then possibly finding one elsewhere maybe even a waiver player or something to that affect. But who really knows what DD will do.
I could see that in past seasons but we have so many bodies as it is now I don't see him bringing in another player unless it's an upgrade. Why spend assets on an OA otherwise when they will be taking ice time away from a younger player who may be just as good.
If Greenberg pushes his NCAA commitment to Sacred Heart and comes back that would be one for free. As of now that doesn't seem likely but it would be easier to trade for one guy instead of two.
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