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Player Discussion Owen Power, LD (1st overall, 2021) Gentle Giant

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MarkusKetterer said:
He could, but even in juniors Pronger was nasty to play against.

Mind you it’s also easier to do when your backup was Dave Roche, Matt Johnson, Geordie Kinnear, and Mike Harding.
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Part of the problem is that is an inherent trait either you have it or not. The other part is his size, being bigger than everyone else hitting people most likely resulted in lots of penalty minutes so most coaches would have curbed that
 
Old Navy Goat said:
Part of the problem is that is an inherent trait either you have it or not. The other part is his size, being bigger than everyone else hitting people most likely resulted in lots of penalty minutes so most coaches would have curbed that
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It also depends on what he grew up playing. Like Dahlin grew up playing C, and at times he looks like one. It’s also why you still see him try to swipe the puck instead of levelling the guy.

As for Power, hopefully this fanbase waits a game or two before shredding him.
 
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MarkusKetterer said:
He could, but even in juniors Pronger was nasty to play against.

Mind you it’s also easier to do when your backup was Dave Roche, Matt Johnson, Geordie Kinnear, and Mike Harding.
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that wasn’t just an on ice trait. I heard stories of pronger being mean/a bully towards billet family’s he was just a big ass dude with a low temper treshhold. Power Definitley seems wayyy more relaxed
 
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MarkusKetterer said:
It also depends on what he grew up playing. Like Dahlin grew up playing C, and at times he looks like one. It’s also why you still see him try to swipe the puck instead of levelling the guy.

As for Power, hopefully this fanbase waits a game or two before shredding him.
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Hopefully this fanbase can get a thicker skin by that time, because there will be criticisms of Power's play that are warranted, that will be observations that won't be tied into one's longer term trajectory of said player.

Otherwise it will become just one big circle...

If criticisms aren't welcome please let all know this.
 
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OkimLom said:
Hopefully this fanbase can get a thicker skin by that time, because there will be criticisms of Power's play that are warranted, that will be observations that won't be tied into one's longer term trajectory of said player.

Otherwise it will become just one big circle...

If criticisms aren't welcome please let all know this.
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There’s a huge difference between “he needs to work on XX” and “trade him while he still has value!” You know this.

But no, let’s act like I’m saying we can’t say anything bad about him.
 
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MarkusKetterer said:
There’s a huge difference between “he needs to work on XX” and “trade him while he still has value!” You know this.

But no, let’s act like I’m saying we can’t say anything bad about him.
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Is there now? Because it seems those that criticize player that often make "he needs to work on XX" comments are read by other posters as "trade him while he still has value" and react accordingly. At the very least people always use excuses of said issues by saying "he's young, he'll get better, and other excuses".

Lot's of people don't want to see or hear the warts of said players. It happens a lot here.
 
OkimLom said:
Is there now? Because it seems those that criticize player that often make "he needs to work on XX" comments are read by other posters as "trade him while he still has value" and react accordingly. At the very least people always use excuses of said issues by saying "he's young, he'll get better, and other excuses".

Lot's of people don't want to see or hear the warts of said players. It happens a lot here.
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True. One of Power's biggest strengths in terms of overall defensive play is that he's good at moving the puck up the ice and keeping play alive in the offensive zone. It's hard to get scored on from the opposite end of the ice. His in-zone defensive game still has room to grow (or said a negative way, "needs work") yet that is also normal for just about every young defenseman.

The Pronger comment above is not taking into account that level of downright mean is not part of how Power plays the game. He's a mobile big man but the mindset that big automatically means rugged is such a long-term flawed Sabre fan take that it could be studied as being passed down generation to generation as though it's genetic at this point.
 
OkimLom said:
Is there now? Because it seems those that criticize player that often make "he needs to work on XX" comments are read by other posters as "trade him while he still has value" and react accordingly. At the very least people always use excuses of said issues by saying "he's young, he'll get better, and other excuses".

Lot's of people don't want to see or hear the warts of said players. It happens a lot here.
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Or I read “trade him immediately” posts as posts that say “trade him immediately”. But you do you, king.
 
Rewatching the Czech-Canada game and found a few plays he created in the first that didn't result in goals. We'll just not mention how he defended the first Czech goal, but he did have a really nice view of both passes on the 2-on-1 that went through him...
 
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Dex said:
Huge red flag. Obvious low hockey IQ.
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Talk about Buffaluck. Stamkos can recall the details of every pass leading up to every goal since he was ten, we get the guy who can't remember his only other hat trick because he wishes he was playing lacrosse. :(
 
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OkimLom said:
Is there now? Because it seems those that criticize player that often make "he needs to work on XX" comments are read by other posters as "trade him while he still has value" and react accordingly. At the very least people always use excuses of said issues by saying "he's young, he'll get better, and other excuses".

Lot's of people don't want to see or hear the warts of said players. It happens a lot here.
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Like anything else, the response tone is rooted in the delivery. An aggressive tone prompts a defensive response. Carefully crafted statements can almost always determine the response.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
 
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Matt Ress said:
Like anything else, the response tone is rooted in the delivery. An aggressive tone prompts a defensive response. Carefully crafted statements can almost always determine the response.
Thank you for coming to my Ted talk
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The tone read can also be taken differently by the reader if the reader has a view on the writer and what they think they are trying to say.
 
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OkimLom said:
The tone read can also be taken differently by the reader if the reader has a view on the writer and what they think they are trying to say.
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Very true. But if the writer is trying to accomplish a different response, they shouldn't be swayed by such things.

I know you have a strong hockey mind and keen eye but sometimes you do come off as negative.
 
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