Ovechkin Milestone Thread - Countdown to 894 (Continued)

[Fatass]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Playoffs are an entirely different season and anything can happen.

True. But OV is built for playoff hockey. He’s on a club having an excellent year. He looks rejuvenated.

 

[Tulpar]

As of right now the 39 years old has 29 goals the 27 years old has 21 after 41 games played for both.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Too often we don’t accept how great a player is until he’s retired for a few years. It’s the truly great ones we see as great while they’re playing. Howe, Orr, Gretzky, Mario, Crosby. Imo OV is in that company as a player who we don’t need time to go by to see his greatness.

I think Lidstrom should deserve to be in this list as well, he might be the best Dman I have seen in my life as well as Hasek but its going to be hard to argue OV doesnt belong. I agree with u that Crosby will still likely finish above him still but that doesnt really matter anyways. great player and career

 

[Mulletman]

Ovechkin has now scored more goals after he broke his leg(14 goals), than he still needs to score to break Gretzky's record(13 goals).

Ovechkin still has a good shot at breaking the record in less games than Gretzky as he needs 13 goals in 19 games. Ovechkin has 13 goals in his last 22 games. But if he wants to do it in style he needs 13 goals in just 12 games as Gretzky scored his last goal in his 1479th game, going goalless in his last 8 games. That's not impossible either as Ovechkin faces a lot of weak teams in his next 12 games...

 

[Fallschirmyager]

Yeah, I'd say that's a fair assessment. Matthews might have some injury troubles in his 30s as you said, but he's still averaging 50+ over the past few years. He went 60 -> 40 -> 69 and now on pace for 40 over a full season.

I don't know abouyt Matthews or anyone else ever reaching 895 (or whatever ends up being Ovechkin's final count), but I can see him pushing 700+.

I dislike this type of projection because it bakes in the assumption there won't be a drop off just due to age. Ovy is an outlier in this regard. His production has been insanely consistent. Maybe Matthews will be in the same ilk but he has another 3 years before he starts to prove that. Matthews has missed about the same number of games in 9 seasons as Ovy has in 20. Injuries don't get easier to come back from after 30.

 

[gary559]

I can't believe how good he still is.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

I dislike this type of projection because it bakes in the assumption there won't be a drop off just due to age. Ovy is an outlier in this regard. His production has been insanely consistent. Maybe Matthews will be in the same ilk but he has another 3 years before he starts to prove that. Matthews has missed about the same number of games in 9 seasons as Ovy has in 20. Injuries don't get easier to come back from after 30.

Matthews finishing at 700 or so means he'd drop off at some point, either by slowing down or retiring earlier. He's almost at 400 goals, so finishing at 700 around the same age as Ovechkin currently means averaging 25-30 goals per season for the next 12 years. Seems realistic when estimating a players' natural decline in their mid to late 30s (except Ovechkin of course).

 

[Fred22406Capsfan]

What do you think, give it til around 8pm Eastern before the "yeah but it was an ENG" crowd comes out?

 

[Bruce Granville]

Edmonton doesn‘t even try to pretend they like Gretzky…gifting Ovi a hattick…smh.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Edmonton doesn‘t even try to pretend they like Gretzky…gifting Ovi a hattick…smh.

What is the benefit to the Oilers team of not pulling the goalie in that situation?

 

[TJHKY]

 

[PainForShane]

Absolutely unbelievable player

 

[BallardEra]

He also has 82 points in his last 77 games with a +15

 

[StreetHawk]

Kind of insane that from age 34 onwards, he scored 200 goals. How many players score 200 after they turn 30?
Never would have imagined he'd have a shot at the record this season given how slow he started last season plus how out of peak shape he looked with photos of him in his suit getting on the bus.

If he didn't get hurt, he'd be like 5-8 goals away from breaking it this season most likely.

 

[Heffyhoof]

I might even start watching Caps games over my team's because this is incredible. Can't wait to watch the moment he breaks it.

 

[BallardEra]

How many players score 200 after they turn 30?

NHL goals after the age of 30:

Most NHL Goals After Age 30 | StatMuse

Gordie Howe has recorded the most career goals by a player older than 30, with 383 scored.

www.statmuse.com

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

So I know many think he’s gonna retire or go to the KHL after his contract is up but with how insanely well both he and the Caps are playing, I can’t see why he would have any interest in leaving. Truly think he’ll get 1000 goals. 3 more years after this one could probably do it, so another 2 year contract after this one ends.

 

[BallardEra]

So I know many think he’s gonna retire or go to the KHL after his contract is up but with how insanely well both he and the Caps are playing, I can’t see why he would have any interest in leaving. Truly think he’ll get 1000 goals. 3 more years after this one could probably do it, so another 2 year contract after this one ends.

After next year he should be at 920-930 goals if healthy. He would need to play for 3-4 more years beyond that to get to 1000 goals.

 

[M2Beezy]

Here are the goals from today

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[ViD]

Will be kinda shocking if Ovie scores more than Matthews this season

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

He scores a lot of goals.

The ENG tonight was a bit of a charity goal however.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

After next year he should be at 920-930 goals if healthy. He would need to play for 3-4 more years beyond that to get to 1000 goals.

He’s pacing for about 60 this year, that’s obviously high but I don’t see a huge drop off happening next year. 40 seems realistic, then he’d need roughly 30 each of the 2 years after that — also realistic in my view. 50 next year wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever either.

 

[BallardEra]

He’s pacing for about 60 this year, that’s obviously high but I don’t see a huge drop off happening next year. 40 seems realistic, then he’d need roughly 30 each of the 2 years after that — also realistic in my view. 50 next year wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever either.

I just think it gets harder to stay fully healthy as you get older. What he’s done up until now is insane.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

What is the benefit to the Oilers team of not pulling the goalie in that situation?

Not very often do teams pull the goalie trailing by 3 goals. Happens more often over the last year or two it seems but a rather pointless gesture in most cases.

Ovechkin makes it count as he generally does.