Ovechkin Milestone Thread 2.0 - Passed some guy named Wayne, now NHL goalscoring leader (895)

So, what was your reasoning for posting in this thread? It‘s a thread about Ovechkin breaking the record. It’s in the title.
to say i felt honestly “meh” about it.

it’s cool i guess, but it’s not “the most important moment in hockey history”!
many seem to want to make it..

other than that… why would someone express an opinion on a chat board? wow that’s a stumper for sure… I 100% didn’t know conversation about hockey was forbidden on HF boards.

thanks for letting me know that people shouldn’t post things here
 
That's not why you lose :laugh: and everybody in here (other than you) knows why.....
se that’s the problem…

i’m discussing things…. and you think there’s a “winner and a loser” in a discussion….

grownups can share ideas and talk about things and realize other points of view have merit…

but ok you win!!! wow look at you go.
 
i started this thread talking about hockey. and saying Ovies goal record made me feel …”meh”.
so what you just wanted attention? Why would anybody possibly care about how it makes you "feel"? People can literally feel your blood boil across the keyboard, losing your mind at everyone, because Ovechkin breaking the record is making you so angry.
 
so what you just wanted attention? Why would anybody possibly care about how it makes you "feel"? People can literally feel your blood boil across the keyboard, losing your mind at everyone, because Ovechkin breaking the record is making you so angry.
lol

i guess you must really want attention!

cuz you are in here talking about hockey yoo!

funny how you can “feel my blood boil” when i’m laughing the whole time!

see i came her to talk about hockey and ovechkin place in it his accomplishments, and the very real failings and issues in his game that prevent him from truly being amongst the GOAT nhl players

you all seem to want to have an echo box about how he is the Gost, and spend the rest of your posts talking about how you know how other people feel…

anyway i’m done.

when your done judging me and telling me all about my feelings… if you want to talk about hockey, or Ovechkin ?
i’ll be around.
 
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i started this thread talking about hockey. and saying Ovies goal record made me feel …”meh”.



since then you people have called me bitter sad angry , accused me of trolling, and one sad little snowflake accused me of attempting to apparently intentionally attack and ruin his and everyone else’s fun and apparently his personal Life….?!

your entire post was you calling me “bitter” so..,
how about you quit telling me how I feel and either shut the f*** up? or actualy talk about hockey.
You're free to say what you want on a message board and other people are free to call you out on your nonsense. You haven't ruined anyone's life, but you are ruining peoples' fun.

Okay. Let's talk hockey and your outdated Ovechkin rhetoric.


-Ovechkin is half the player Gretzky is.

There's no general sentiment in this thread that Alex Ovechkin is the greatest player of all time. There's a genuine celebration of him being the best goal-scorer to have done it, by any measure. Every time someone tries to point this out to you, you move the goal posts. Every time someone points out something in favor of Ovechkin, even if it's well-represented with data behind it, you move the goal posts.

Case in point, someone pointed out how much harder it was to score goals in Ovechkin's prime vs Gretzky's and you made it about overall points instead.

-Do you take Ovechkin or Crosby to lead a team to the Cup/Start a Franchise?

Weird place to take this randomly, but okay. They've both done it, so either. Depends on what the team needs at that moment and who's available of the two.

-Yes, but Ovechkin clearly needed more help while Crosby made his teammates better.

Hockey is a team sport. You have different people doing different things. Crosby, fully capable of scoring goals, made it a point to be more of a facilitator and he remains amazing at it. It's been fun to watch him stay as good as he has stayed. Ovechkin, fully capable of passing, made it a point to be more of a goal-scorer, because there was no one on his team better at the task than he. His teammates know that, his coaches know that and now, history knows that. The need to try to poo-poo Ovechkin for not being Crosby or Gretzky is weird.

-There are better players than Ovechkin right now.

Everything that people are in awe about when it comes to Ovechkin is the longevity. The fact that, despite being 39 and slower than a legless turtle (yet still somehow faster than Strome), he's still getting the job done. To the point where he's still top 5 in goals despite missing 16 games and still 14th in points per (virtual tie with Crosby, btw). Still over a point per, even.
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You don't have to kiss Ovechkin's feet. No one gives a damn, but if you're going to come into what is, inherently, a positive thread and summon rainclouds, then you're going to have to expect that not everyone (see: almost no one) is going to like that and you will get a reply.

Self Edit: Removed some inflammatory stuff.
 
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lol

i guess you must really want attention!

cuz you are in here talking about hockey yoo!

funny how you can “feel my blood boil” when i’m laughing the whole time!

see i came her to talk about hockey and ovechkin place in it his accomplishments, and the very real failings and issues in his game that prevent him from truly being amongst the GOAT nhl players

you all seem to want to have an echo box about how he is the Gost, and spend the rest of your posts talking about how you know how other people feel…

anyway i’m done.

when your done judging me and telling me all about my feelings… if you want to talk about hockey, or Ovechkin ?
i’ll be around.

This is a milestone thread. Dial it back, please.
 
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Could’ve been looking at 1000 goals next season if it wasn’t for unnecessary lockouts.
Honestly think he has it already without any interrupts or stoppages at all... or if the organization didn't cave when it came to the nonsense narrative that Ovechkin was being *too* offensive-minded. Can you imagine if GSW told Steph Curry to stop shooting so many threes and to try to be more like Gary Payton?
 
Honestly think he has it already without any interrupts or stoppages at all... or if the organization didn't cave when it came to the nonsense narrative that Ovechkin was being *too* offensive-minded. Can you imagine if GSW told Steph Curry to stop shooting so many threes and to try to be more like Gary Payton?
I've always wondered why Ovi tweaked his play style after 2010. He was the best rush player in the world at the time, but then he started carrying the puck less frequently, and his shot volume declined as well. I hope it wasn't the organization's/coach's doing because if it was, they robbed us of one of the most entertaining and dominant players in history. Ovi playing his 2006-2010 style of play wins every Art Ross from 2011-2018, with the possible exception of Malkin 2012.
 
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I've always wondered why Ovi tweaked his play style after 2010. He was the best rush player in the world at the time, but then he started carrying the puck less frequently, and his shot volume declined as well. I hope it wasn't the organization's/coach's doing because if it was, they robbed us of one of the most entertaining and dominant players in history. Ovi playing his 2006-2010 style of play wins every Art Ross from 2011-2018, with the possible exception of Malkin 2012.
It was largely four things: 1) Ovechkin got suspended for several games after running/crosschecking Brian Campbell from the Hawks into the endpoints. The league told him to tone his recklessness right in the midst of his peak. 2) After years of not getting over the hump in the playoffs, the Caps reoriented to a defensive style. Even Bruce Boudreau was complicit in this, but it also reflected by subsequent coaching hires like Dale Hunter. 3) Vancouver Olympics 2010 disappointment, and possible depression for Ovechkin. 4) Lingering wrist (?) injury in 2010-11 that drastically affected his goal production.
 
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It was largely four things: 1) Ovechkin got suspended for several games after running/crosschecking Brian Campbell from the Hawks into the endpoints. The league told him to tone his recklessness right in the midst of his peak. 2) After years of not getting over the hump in the playoffs, the Caps reoriented to a defensive style. Even Bruce Boudreau was complicit in this, but it also reflected by subsequent coaching hires like Dale Hunter. 3) Sochi Olympics 2010 disappointment, and possible depression for Ovechkin. 4) Lingering wrist (?) injury in 2010-11 that drastically affected his goal production.
Bruce being complicit is a bit of an overstatement. Pretty sure the memo he got was "Do it or get fired". And then he got fired anyway :laugh:

I also still don't think Ovi ever recovered from whatever happened to his wrist, though we'll never know for sure. Watching him handle the puck ever after, it's sometimes like he's learning how to do it for the first time.
 
Bruce being complicit is a bit of an overstatement. Pretty sure the memo he got was "Do it or get fired". And then he got fired anyway :laugh:

I also still don't think Ovi ever recovered from whatever happened to his wrist, though we'll never know for sure. Watching him handle the puck ever after, it's sometimes like he's learning how to do it for the first time.
You're probably right. That's what made the next version of Ovechkin in the 12-13 shortened season so exciting. Everyone thought those down years was how Ovechkin was going to be going forward. Then he, maybe with Oates' help, reinvented his game and he wins another Hart.
 
I think the best part of the whole Ovechkin saga is how so many haters in the media wrote him off as being "cooked" yet he still got to 895 and they are still coping.

Case in point:

It's been depressing to watch some sections of hockey media (and a bunch of people who treat those sections as religious text) try their best to continue this narrative where Ovechkin has to be the bad guy or has to be the one between Crosby and him that's not in their all-time rankings. The guy's what? Currently 11th in all-time points? Probably hits 10th next season? And they keep wanting to pretend he's a few magnitudes less great than Sid? Give us a break.

Who cares, though? The greatest player of all time wasn't following them around to see a record being broken. That's my measure of importance to the game. These fools can bloviate and spin it any way they want. Ovechkin has the record. Ovechkin's still relevant in a young man's game at age 39 and he doesn't need to shit on anyone else's accomplishments to be so.
 
It's been depressing to watch some sections of hockey media (and a bunch of people who treat those sections as religious text) try their best to continue this narrative where Ovechkin has to be the bad guy or has to be the one between Crosby and him that's not in their all-time rankings. The guy's what? Currently 11th in all-time points? Probably hits 10th next season? And they keep wanting to pretend he's a few magnitudes less great than Sid? Give us a break.

Who cares, though? The greatest player of all time wasn't following them around to see a record being broken. That's my measure of importance to the game. These fools can bloviate and spin it any way they want. Ovechkin has the record. Ovechkin's still relevant in a young man's game at age 39 and he doesn't need to shit on anyone else's accomplishments to be so.
Yeah lmao he set a record in a counting stat where you need play at an insane level for 20 years to even think of breaking. That record will stand for atleast 60+ years. At the end of the day, when a rookie scores 40 goals there will be a counter on screen that says 900 more goals to break OVI’s record.
 
It's been depressing to watch some sections of hockey media (and a bunch of people who treat those sections as religious text) try their best to continue this narrative where Ovechkin has to be the bad guy or has to be the one between Crosby and him that's not in their all-time rankings. The guy's what? Currently 11th in all-time points? Probably hits 10th next season? And they keep wanting to pretend he's a few magnitudes less great than Sid? Give us a break.

Who cares, though? The greatest player of all time wasn't following them around to see a record being broken. That's my measure of importance to the game. These fools can bloviate and spin it any way they want. Ovechkin has the record. Ovechkin's still relevant in a young man's game at age 39 and he doesn't need to shit on anyone else's accomplishments to be so.
Marek has him 4th after Gretzky, Mario, and Hasek, ahead of Sid. I was genuinely shocked to see that out of a Canadian media member.
 

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