Ovechkin - MacKinnon - Kucherov Or Kariya - Lindros - Jagr?

[Bileur]

Replace Kariya with Brendan Shanahan.

Shanahan - Lindros - Jagr

Sick but I think Kariya brings something different to the line. Shanahan was amazing but it’s more of what’s already there.

 

[geebster]

The best all round player is Jagr among these 6. Kariya and Lindros both had their careers limited by injury, but prime versions of both and it'd basically be Lindros and Jagr playing a tough 2 man cycle and finding Kariya for snipes and tap ins. The other group has too many guys that need to hold the puck to be effective. They would 100% dominate though.

To me the 2nd line is better but this is a lot closer than the last one.

 

[byrath]

IMO Ovie would thrive. None of those 80s/90s goons could skate with Ovie, and anyone who could skate with him is far smaller and less powerful. Ovie has also demonstrated excellent on-ice awareness. It's not uncommon that a player thinks they are going to hit him and they end up taking the worst of it.

Recall that the NHL suspended Ovie repeatedly for hits that, in the 90s, are not suspendable offenses.

People forget how big Ovi is, and his physical play is generally underappreciated because he's Russian/not North American. Imagine the Canadian media if a guy named say... Mac Leeny had Ovi's career.

 

[Staniowski]

The 2nd line looks quite a bit better. Quite scary, actually.

 

[Leafidelity]

I dont know many groups in any era that could get the puck away from prime Jagr and Lindros

 

[Pavel10]

Sick but I think Kariya brings something different to the line. Shanahan was amazing but it’s more of what’s already there.

Forsberg.

 

[Lou Sassole]

Ovechkin >>> Kariya

Mackinnon > Lindros

Kucherov = Jagr (prime for prime)

I'm sorry, but Prime Kuch is not equal to prime Jagr, and prime Mackinnon is at best equal to Prime Lindros, probably worse. Lindros was an absolute monster in his Legion of Doom days.

 

[Roksta]

Yeah as tough and strong as MacKinnon and Ovy are.. Lindros is going to destroy them

 

[Bileur]

Forsberg.

Would be AINEC with Forsberg though (IMO)

 

[WillardJFredricks]

My vote assumes a fully healthy Lindros. He was absolutely unreal and that's why I vote for his line.

 

[Fataldogg]

Ovechkin >>> Kariya

Mackinnon > Lindros

Kucherov = Jagr (prime for prime)

Kucherov prime equals the prime of a guy who won 5 Art Ross trophies in 6 years? I don't think so.

 

[Video Nasty]

Assuming full health and peak powers, I don’t see how anyone is going against Kariya-Lindros-Jagr.

Lindros and Jagr are two of the top four players since Lemieux’s debut, a 40 year period. The opposing side does not have either of the other two players.

 

[Thechozen1]

I take MacKinnon over scrambled egg head Lindros and as much as I like Kariya, I take Ovi over him quite easily. Jagr is a tier above Kuch, but gap is closer than Ovi/Kariya. That’s 2/3 for the MacKinnon line.

 

[The Macho King]

My vote assumes a fully healthy Lindros. He was absolutely unreal and that's why I vote for his line.

My vote assumes that dragons are real.

IDK since we're making up fantasy scenarios I figure I'd go for it.

 

[Gurglesons]

If we are talking at their very best, I'm not sure how it isn't the young guys.

Ovechkin is the best player on the list.

MacKinnon and Kucherov are both close to Jagr's best season and there is no argument for "Jagr played in the deadpuck era". Jags best season came in 96.

Lindros and Kariya aren't really close to Ovechkin, MacKinnon, and Kucherov even at their peak.

 

[Gurglesons]

Assuming full health and peak powers, I don’t see how anyone is going against Kariya-Lindros-Jagr.

Lindros and Jagr are two of the top four players since Lemieux’s debut, a 40 year period. The opposing side does not have either of the other two players.

Ovechkin at his peak was way more dangerous than Jagr at his peak as a Penguins fan.

Peak Lindros versus peak MacKinnon / Kucherov isn't really comparable. Lindros had one good season and it was because it was an expedited season.

Peak Kucherov is a 140+ forward who can put up 30+ pts in the playoffs.

Peak MacKinnon is a 140+ forward and arguably the best playoff performer we've seen in the cap era.

I don't really see the comparison at all unless you are a '90s guy being biased.

 

[Video Nasty]

Ovechkin at his peak was way more dangerous than Jagr at his peak as a Penguins fan.

Peak Lindros versus peak MacKinnon / Kucherov isn't really comparable. Lindros had one good season and it was because it was an expedited season.

Peak Kucherov is a 140+ forward who can put up 30+ pts in the playoffs.

Peak MacKinnon is a 140+ forward and arguably the best playoff performer we've seen in the cap era.

I don't really see the comparison at all unless you are a '90s guy being biased.

Thanks. I’ll use this later when writing something else about McDavid.

 

[norrisnick]

Assuming full health and peak powers, I don’t see how anyone is going against Kariya-Lindros-Jagr.

Lindros and Jagr are two of the top four players since Lemieux’s debut, a 40 year period. The opposing side does not have either of the other two players.

I mean, all sorts of players could have been top 4 if you magically erase their flaws....

 

[Video Nasty]

I mean, all sorts of players could have been top 4 if you magically erase their flaws....

Premise of the thread though, no? “At their best.”

 

[norrisnick]

Premise of the thread though, no? “At their best.”

Sure, but even with that proviso... others would get that same benefit, correct?

 

[Gurglesons]

Thanks. I’ll use this later when writing something else about McDavid.

Not sure what this is in relation to, but sure.

 

[Video Nasty]

Sure, but even with that proviso... others would get that same benefit, correct?

I simply think Lindros > MacKinnon, Jagr > Kucherov, Kariya < Ovechkin.

 

[norrisnick]

I simply think Lindros > MacKinnon, Jagr > Kucherov, Kariya < Ovechkin.

I mean... maybe? I'd put Lindros v MacKinnon at a wash at best as Nate gets a health boost too. Then if you go Jagr and Ov as a wash as well. You run into Kucherov v Kariya... and a healthy Kariya can certainly hold his own.

It's a devilish game of paper, rock, scissors to be sure.

 

[Gurglesons]

I mean... maybe? I'd put Lindros v MacKinnon at a wash at best as Nate gets a health boost too. Then if you go Jagr and Ov as a wash as well. You run into Kucherov v Kariya... and a healthy Kariya can certainly hold his own.

It's a devilish game of paper, rock, scissors to be sure.

Not sure how Kariya even compares to Kucherov tbh.

 

[The Macho King]

Not sure how Kariya even compares to Kucherov tbh.

He played when I was 12 duh.