Ovechkin goes for his 4th MVP

[gordie]

Getting long in the tooth to keep this up until the playoffs.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

ovechkin has won the hart trophy when he clearly did not deserve it yet there are still some who claim he is prejudiced against. preposterous.

When did that happen?

 

[authentic]

His hart finishes - 2,6,8,11,11. From 2009-2015 he was in the discussion every year (except 2014 when he broke his leg). Had a down year in 2016. Still it kills me when some people are surprised he's playing this well..... anyone forget how good he was pre injuries? he just needed time off the fully heal, including the minor ones.

Yeah so my point stands, he was in the discussion one year. Do you consider 6 to 11 finishes a contender for the Hart?

 

[SkinsFan09]

What's remarkable is he has scored 20% of the Capitals goals since he came into the league. More than any other player ever over a span as long. Also Ovechkin deserved the Hart in 2013 and Crosby got the Pearson like he deserved.

 

[Plural]

Voters don't like him... view him as one dimensional, no heart, etc...

Huh? Dude has three 1st and two 2nd place finishes.

 

[Baxterman]

When did that happen?

2008, 2009 and 2012

 

[Iapyi]

When did that happen?

have to admit at first i thought you were serious.

 

[Sol]

He's skating much better this season than I've seen in the past years. He's actually dynamic and shifty.

I don't know if it's effort and or training. But he looks much more mobile. I'm not a caps fan, but he does have a definite jump.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

IF Ovi can score 50 goals, win the Rocket, put up 90ish points, and lead the Caps to one of the top 3 records in the East I think he will be right in the conversation.

 

[Fatty McLardy]

The voters are a bunch of pro Canadian fanboys.

I could care less though about awards, Ovechkin definitely has been dealt a bad hand with the teams he has played on. Yeah, they were good teams but he never was given the stacked teams that Crosby had on the Penguins.

Ya, he's been slumming it with consecutive presidents trophy winning teams.....bad hand bruh!!!! LOL

 

[Son Goku]

The voters are a bunch of pro Canadian fanboys.

I could care less though about awards, Ovechkin definitely has been dealt a bad hand with the teams he has played on. Yeah, they were good teams but he never was given the stacked teams that Crosby had on the Penguins.

Oh please, Ovechkin's team won the presidents trophy how many times?

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

have to admit at first i thought you were serious.

No, I'm dead serious actually.

2008, 2009 and 2012

You're saying he deserved none of the 3? BTW the third one is 2013, not 2012.

 

[Riddum]

Voters don't like him... view him as one dimensional, no heart, etc...

But he won the Hart 3 times...

 

[Brian McDavid]

But he won the Hart 3 times...

Read the dang thread. Ive answered this.

 

[Riddum]

Read the dang thread. Ive answered this.

Take a chill pill, buddy.

 

[Baxterman]

You're saying he deserved none of the 3? BTW the third one is 2013, not 2012.

Yes I think he didn't deserve a single one and each year there were at least one guy more deserving.

 

[Human]

Voters don't like him... view him as one dimensional, no heart, etc...

are you for real?

The voters are a bunch of pro Canadian fanboys.

I could care less though about awards, Ovechkin definitely has been dealt a bad hand with the teams he has played on. Yeah, they were good teams but he never was given the stacked teams that Crosby had on the Penguins.

excuse me? check the last two playoffs, the Caps had the most stacked rosters in the league.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Yes I think he didn't deserve a single one and each year there were at least one guy more deserving.

That's your opinion man. Glad you shared it with me

 

[Sam Spade]

Leading the league in goals doesn't get you in the top 10 thus far???

I probably have Kucherov, Stamkos, Bobrovsky, Andersen, Wheeler or Scheifle, Schwartz (1st place teams, great numbers), Kopitar or Doughty, Tavares, Gaudreu and then perhaps Ovechkin.
Maybe I shouldn't have said "not even close".

 

[Weztex]

ovechkin has won the hart trophy when he clearly did not deserve it yet there are still some who claim he is prejudiced against. preposterous.

While I think Crosby did deserve the Hart in 2012-13, I think Ovechkin was massively robbed of it in 2009-10 so it evens out. He was far and away the best player on the best regular season team. That suspension he got really rubbed some voters the wrong way.

 

[Tofveve]

He's definitely come on strong again. Good to see!

 

[KoozNetsOff 92]

14/15: rocket, PPG, 6pts behind 1st = 2nd place hart

15/16: rocket, 0.90, 35pts behind 1st = 6th place hart

If he wins the rocket, is ~PPG and not too far from the ross winner then he's going to win the hart. Especially if the ross 1-2 are Kucherov/Stamkos, they will split votes and clear the path for Ovechkin.

 

[Sky04]

14/15: rocket, PPG, 6pts behind 1st = 2nd place hart

15/16: rocket, 0.90, 35pts behind 1st = 6th place hart

If he wins the rocket, is ~PPG and not too far from the ross winner then he's going to win the hart. Especially if the ross 1-2 are Kucherov/Stamkos, they will split votes and clear the path for Ovechkin.

Let's be real, the Art Ross winner will be above 100 points this year and Ovechkin at PPG wouldn't have a good argument. He doesn't drive the play anymore despite putting up decent point totals, he likely won't even be the highest point scorer on his team at seasons end. Another rocket adds well to his legacy but he won't be contending for the MVP anymore.

If Gaudreau leads the flames into the playoffs at his scoring rate he has a much better argument than Ovechkin, then there's Kucherov, McDavid who's heating up.

 

[Sam Spade]

Let's be real, the Art Ross winner will be above 100 points this year and Ovechkin at PPG wouldn't have a good argument. He doesn't drive the play anymore despite putting up decent point totals, he likely won't even be the highest point scorer on his team at seasons end. Another rocket adds well to his legacy but he won't be contending for the MVP anymore.

If Gaudreau leads the flames into the playoffs at his scoring rate he has a much better argument than Ovechkin, then there's Kucherov, McDavid who's heating up.

I am not disagreeing with the rest of the post but if you think Ovechkin doesn't "drive the play" you are not watching Caps games this season. Some nights he is the only player on the team driving play.

 

[canuck2010]

There is already one trophy for the league's leading scorer. Why does the MVP award necessarily have anything to do with points.