HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2025 Playoff edition

[Team_Spirit]

 

[nhlfan9191]

It's a cycle until proven otherwise. From 2005 to 2019 those teams weren't bringing much of results. And I don't think it took 14 years for them to figure out they had no income taxes in their state.

A lot has changed since Covid. Canadian teams were already at a disadvantage as far as attracting players but it’s going to get worse and paying no state tax is only going to get more attractive if inflation keeps rising.

 

[sampollock]

he should get fired no concern for a superstar goalie
Roy deal all over again

 

[morhilane]

OMFG it is so boring... can this f***ing season end already so that we can get to the UFAs and trades? Like who gives a flying f*** about who plays who for the cup. Make something happen, Hughes. Trade Price or something. ANYTHING!

The summer is going to be very long.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

guys can we just rename this the tax thread already?

 

[HuGo Sham]

guys can we just rename this the tax thread already?

 

[sandviper]

Will be interesting to see how PDB and Otter come back from this. I get Oettinger had a rough series but the lack of scoring, especially at 5v5 was a huge issue. Also the two goals he let in weren’t muffins. Not great but can’t really blame him for either.

Last year, he wasn’t good games 4 through 6 but the Stars only scored 4 goals.

Wasn’t a fan of PDB’s comments past game but I was more irritated with the way he pulled Oettinger out of the game. The pull after the time-out as well as the way he was calling him off the ice, like a child.

 

[LaP]

Will be interesting to see how PDB and Otter come back from this. I get Oettinger had a rough series but the lack of scoring, especially at 5v5 was a huge issue. Also the two goals he let in weren’t muffins. Not great but can’t really blame him for either.

Last year, he wasn’t good games 4 through 6 but the Stars only scored 4 goals.

Wasn’t a fan of PDB’s comments past game but I was more irritated with the way he pulled Oettinger out of the game. The pull after the time-out as well as the way he was calling him off the ice, like a child.

They don't. One of them will be gone. I think it will be PDB fired this summer.

 

[AHShadow]

Think Nill is smart enough to fire DeBoer after this. Keeping him after pulling off a stupid move like this in the most important game of the season and disrespecting your #1 goalie would be idiotic, and sadly Nill is one of the better GMs.

If for some reason Nill keeps DeBoer, we should be all over Oettinger and secure our #1 goalie of the future (even if it costs us Fowler).

 

[sandviper]

They don't. One of them will be gone. I think it will be PDB fired this summer.

Yeah, was a bit of a rhetorical statement on my part, but agree PDB is likely gone.

 

[CrazyBob]

I was just thinking about it. Corey Perry is now at his sixth finals in seven years. Thats a LOT of hockey played in just a few years and hes still going strong at 40 years old. Thats insane.

 

[sandviper]

I was just thinking about it. Corey Perry is now at his sixth finals in seven years. Thats a LOT of hockey played in just a few years and hes still going strong at 40 years old. Thats insane.

28 Stanley Cup games in his career. Barring injury or completely shitting the bed and getting scratched, he is guaranteed another 4 games. Already most among active players (Crosby is at 25) and he’ll pass Gretzky after this run at the minimum.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Anyone know where to see the list of prospects who were released ?

 

[JianYang]

I was just thinking about it. Corey Perry is now at his sixth finals in seven years. Thats a LOT of hockey played in just a few years and hes still going strong at 40 years old. Thats insane.

I think its 5 of the last 6 but your point still stands.

The only thing I'll add is that this year is the closest that he has been to a favourite in any of these 5 series, so maybe this is finally the year that he breaks through.

It would potentially mean one cup at the beginning of his career and one cup at the end.

 

[OnTheRun]

A lot has changed since Covid. Canadian teams were already at a disadvantage as far as attracting players but it’s going to get worse and paying no state tax is only going to get more attractive if inflation keeps rising.

Inflation is higher in the US than Canada. Within the US, Florida and Texas have a high inflation rate, 3rd and 5th respectively. In general inflation doesn't resonate much with people on a very high income.

That said, what I meant wasn't limited to Canada. The cycle right now is 4 teams in state with no income taxes have emerged as contenders and this is still at a stage where correlation does not imply causation. If we look back in time a bit no one was talking about taxes when Cali had 3 powerhouses... then their cores reached the end of its useful life... and 2 of those teams are heavy tankers at the moment. So until the "no taxes" teams manage to extend their natural lifespan at the top beyond what we have seen before, they are just part of the usual cycle you would expect to see in the league.

 

[ahmedou]

Waiting until Wednesday 4th June 2025. For the NHL finals 1st game. This hockey break is too long.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[WeThreeKings]

Anyone know where to see the list of prospects who were released ?

Scott Wheeler tweeted it out.

 

[JianYang]

Inflation is higher in the US than Canada. Within the US, Florida and Texas have a high inflation rate, 3rd and 5th respectively. In general inflation doesn't resonate much with people on a very high income.

That said, what I meant wasn't limited to Canada. The cycle right now is 4 teams in state with no income taxes have emerged as contenders and this is still at a stage where correlation does not imply causation. If we look back in time a bit no one was talking about taxes when Cali had 3 powerhouses... then their cores reached the end of its useful life... and 2 of those teams are heavy tankers at the moment. So until the "no taxes" teams manage to extend their natural lifespan at the top beyond what we have seen before, they are just part of the usual cycle you would expect to see in the league.

Remember that chicago was a massive powerhouse during that time too locking up 3 cups in 6 years.... another higher tax jurisdiction.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Renaud Lavoie on bpm this am

"The Panthers have unlimited recuperation budget"

Host; What is it exactly? Isn't every team the same?

"They keep their secret in house"

Ekblad was suspended 20 games for something related to recovery.

Sounds like the Habs being tired was not because they have less talent but because they aren't recovery maxxing

 

[red devil]

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[Adam Michaels]

That's awesome

 

[The Great Weal]

That's a ridiculously cheap contract.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Definitely a bit of a home town deal for Gourde. Tampa is where he always wanted to be anyway, so good for him I guess, he gets a lot of term, pretty much to the end of his career.