HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: 2024-2025 season

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[Rapala]

It's coming. He looks like a cooked lobster standing back there and he has voiced his displeasure with the way he has to conduct himself when communicating with his players. You just know he wants to kick the shit out of somebody lol.

Yeah probably Lou.
One of the reasons we passed on Patrick is his larger than life personality will clash sooner or later.
He'd be a great coach to bring in the back half of a season for a poor performing contender.

I wonder what Anders Lee would cost as a 2C place holder for next season I think he's going UFA in 26/27.
That is one team that has to retool at the very least they hit their apogee in the Covid 2 season.

 

[ReHabs]

Yeah probably Lou.
One of the reasons we passed on Patrick is his larger than life personality will clash sooner or later.
He'd be a great coach to bring in the back half of a season for a poor performing contender.

I wonder what Anders Lee would cost as a 2C place holder for next season I think he's going UFA in 26/27.
That is one team that has to retool at the very least they hit their apogee in the Covid 2 season.

Wouldn’t mind to hot swap for St Patrick once MSL has been fully ran through.

I don’t think Lou and Roy are at loggerheads either, Lou knows the team he’s assembled is less than stellar.

 

[JianYang]

Yeah probably Lou.
One of the reasons we passed on Patrick is his larger than life personality will clash sooner or later.
He'd be a great coach to bring in the back half of a season for a poor performing contender.

I wonder what Anders Lee would cost as a 2C place holder for next season I think he's going UFA in 26/27.
That is one team that has to retool at the very least they hit their apogee in the Covid 2 season.

Aside from his first season in Colorado, has Roy ever really had success coaching in this league?

The way he exited that organization was odd too and he left the avs with their tail between their legs. I don't recall other instances where a coach packs his bags just before camp.

 

[Rapala]

Aside from his first season in Colorado, has Roy ever really had success coaching in this league?

The way he exited that organization was odd too and he left the avs with their tail between their legs. I don't recall other instances where a coach packs his bags just before camp.

Nope
His recent hype came from his work with the Quebec Remparts which was stellar in his Mem Cup season.

 

[JianYang]

Nope
His recent hype came from his work with the Quebec Remparts which was stellar in his Mem Cup season.

Yeah, I would be cautious in thinking that is translatable to the pros. There's a list of guys in other sports who are legends at the collegiate level who couldn't make a dent in the pros.

In hockey, an example thay immediately comes to mind is Don hay. He has legendary status in whl. His nhl tenure was nothing like that.

 

[ReHabs]

Yeah, I would be cautious in thinking that is translatable to the pros. There's a list of guys in other sports who are legends at the collegiate level who couldn't make a dent in the pros.

MSL's coaching experience was entirely contained to coaching pubescent children. He claimed at the time of his hiring with Montreal that coaching the concepts is the same at every level. He had some grounding for thinking this -- if I'm not mistaken he's super well-regarded in US HS-level hockey.

MSL hasn't earned much more leeway and faith imo, the Habs haven't gotten more serious as a hockey team. I don't watch much other hockey though so I'm not sure what is the malaise of the Isles.

 

[JianYang]

MSL's coaching experience was entirely contained to coaching pubescent children. He claimed at the time of his hiring with Montreal that coaching the concepts is the same at every level. He had some grounding for thinking this -- if I'm not mistaken he's super well-regarded in US HS-level hockey.

MSL hasn't earned much more leeway and faith imo, the Habs haven't gotten more serious as a hockey team. I don't watch much other hockey though so I'm not sure what is the malaise of the Isles.

Well, this was specifically about Roy and his established lack of success in the nhl (although perception seems to say otherwise).

Lou has publicly said that he built his organizations with the Habs being his blueprint, and the coaching hires in his history have reflected that (Roy, Robinson lemaire, burns, Julien). I would guess this hiring is just lou going back to his playbook as opposed to his junior track record, regardless.

 

[ReHabs]

Well, this was specifically about Roy and his established lack of success in the nhl (although perception seems to say otherwise).

Lou has publicly said that he built his organizations with the Habs being his blueprint, and the coaching hires in his history have reflected that (Roy, Robinson lemaire, burns, Julien). I would guess this hiring is just lou going back to his playbook as opposed to his junior track record, regardless.

If you ignore all the other coaches Lou hired, like with the Leafs, sure there’s a pattern.

MSL’s track record is worse than Roy’s, not sure why you won’t make an apples to apples comparison.

 

[JianYang]

If you ignore all the other coaches Lou hired, like with the Leafs, sure there’s a pattern.

MSL’s track record is worse than Roy’s, not sure why you won’t make an apples to apples comparison.

On the topic of lou, I'm not even talking about a pattern. I'm talking about what he's publicly stated and it's supported by the amount of hires from one organization. Of course, there's a right place, right time aspect to it, but if we go through all his external hires, I would bet that the greatest amount of them had significant experience from the Habs organization either as a player, coach, or both

Regarding St. Louis, the question I posed was whether Roy had any success whatsoever outside of his rookie season. I also added that I didn't like the way he quit on that organization just before camp.

I think you're trying to steer this into a msl/Roy debate which is a whole other can of worms.