Our roster game 6 against the Senators in 2017

[SML2]

the demise came when carl hagelin was traded for etem emerson the previous year

Rangers had another run in them but losing Hagelin for a bag of pucks was the end of the run for that team.

Hagelin then found his way onto the Pens and they literally won back to back cups because of having Hagelin on their team. he was their missing link

Hagelin earned his payday and it was too much for his role. When you pay 3rd/4th liners like second liners you are asking for trouble. Keep in mind that when we dumped him to Anaheim Hagelin signed a 4m contract. That's alot of cash for a penalty killer. He's only on Washington now because the Kings ate half his contract. If money were no object, we would have kept him. But it is, so we got the most uninterested player we have ever had in Emerson Etem instead.

 

[pld459666]

I dislike Quinn for a lot of reasons but let's wait a couple of years before we bemoan losing with a good roster. We don't have a particularly good roster.

This 16-17 roster is largely unimpressive and it's better.

Stepan/Hayes in 2017 blows away Strome/Chytil in 2021.

Rick Nash was honestly really good and would have been even better if AV didn't essentially deploy him as a 3rd liner. Don't get me started on AV.

Even at the absolute height of the Dan Girardi Experience, he was never as bad as Hajek is now. Ditto for Staal. I only made the stink I did about Girardi because he played half the god damn game.

The current team has waaaay better top-end talent but the 16-17 team had four good forward lines. The current team has one good forward line, another line that's Team Canada a third of the games and non-existent two-thirds of the games, and two 4th lines.

The 2021 team looks good on paper when you consider the names Kakko and Lafreniere but they're prospects. They're great prospects. But *right now* Kakko is Jesper Fast and Lafreniere is a 3rd/4th line tweener.

May i ask why you're comparing the 16-17 top two centers to the current teams 2nd and 3rd line centers?

In fairness, its Stepan, Hayes, Mika

Compared to Mika, Strome and Chytil

I like Mika and Strome over Stepan and Hayes, but concede 16-17 Mika is superior to current Chytil

 

[Machinehead]

May i ask why you're comparing the 16-17 top two centers to the current teams 2nd and 3rd line centers?

In fairness, its Stepan, Hayes, Mika

Compared to Mika, Strome and Chytil

I like Mika and Strome over Stepan and Hayes, but concede 16-17 Mika is superior to current Chytil

I just figured the Mika's cancel out. I think that's what they taught me in Algebra 2.

 

[aufheben]

Our bottom-6 sucks and our bottom-pair sucks. That’s half the f***ing roster.

 

[aufheben]

Also Henrik Lundqvist post-prime is still an average goalie. Raanta played 30 games and allowed like 5 goals during them.

Georgiev + Kinkaid have played 22 games so far and have a combined <.899 SV%

 

[pld459666]

I just figured the Mika's cancel out. I think that's what they taught me in Algebra 2.

Lol

 

[Ratelleitlikeitis]

Lines were a complete clusterf*** that year because of AV’s socialist ice-time distribution and Zibanejad/Nash injuries.

Also, dude, that team was so much deeper. They had six forwards score 40+ points and that’s not counting Nash and Zibanejad who missed like 25-33% of the season.

*approx.*

Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Nash-Zibanejad-Fast
Grabner-Hayes-Miller
Buchnevich-Lindberg-Vesey
Glass

McDonagh-Girardi
Staal-Holden
Skjei-Klein

Forwards
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Forward Lines
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Defense Pairs
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The top chart looks like the Rush starman logo.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I just figured the Mika's cancel out. I think that's what they taught me in Algebra 2.

Different years for Mika, but he did suck in the beginning of the season this year.