Ottawa 67s 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

12th rd

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This is sorta friend/acquaintance of mines nephew...

Gonna be following him / team due to this being the only person other than matt foy (who also played for the 67s) that I know get this far haha.

Being a 12th rounder prob means he's in tough to go further/make the team? Just curious as to expectations (no I won't be relaying what's said here to them)
 
Just read on the 2009 born thread somebody did a composite ranking from 4 different sources...good work by the way. Chitaroni, Hayes and Campbell went in the area they were ranked. The one that surprised me was Johnson who was ranked as a first rounder (17) and we got him at 32 so maybe we got a break there.

Kudos to Oldtymehockeyguy for taking the time to amalgamate the rankings!
 
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We won’t know how this draft works out until a few years from now but there are some solid elements. We did draft one ‘08, Blake Zielinski. It iwll be interesting to see if they can get him to report. He is committed to Providence for 2027-28. So, if he were to keep his commitment, he’d be gone after his 18 year old season. But, as with many other players that have commitments, we shall see how them playing Major Junior affects their enrolment date.

Some bigger kids drafted but we shall see if any develop. They did draft quite a few American kids which is interesting. I’m not sure what that means but, again, if they can get commitments, it will increase the size of the prospect pool, especially if they were drafted a little after their rankings.
 
Let's be candid - the 67's had some high picks in recent years who ultimately didn't become first line caliber players, which is why they ended up where they were this year. Hopefully this draft features top picks who play like top picks, and a couple of diamonds in the rough in the later rounds. We are due for some good luck...
 
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We won’t know how this draft works out until a few years from now but there are some solid elements. We did draft one ‘08, Blake Zielinski. It iwll be interesting to see if they can get him to report. He is committed to Providence for 2027-28. So, if he were to keep his commitment, he’d be gone after his 18 year old season. But, as with many other players that have commitments, we shall see how them playing Major Junior affects their enrolment date.

Some bigger kids drafted but we shall see if any develop. They did draft quite a few American kids which is interesting. I’m not sure what that means but, again, if they can get commitments, it will increase the size of the prospect pool, especially if they were drafted a little after their rankings.
Drafting the Shorter twins will be interesting. I am sure that having both will make it a little easier to sign. Looking at the USHL, the NCAA has their combine 17- 20 April. It is by invitation only, so it should be interesting to see how many of the kids we drafted attend.

Any idea if Ottawa is going to have a rookie camp this year

Would love to see the 2 shorter kids.

One thing about this team we are no longer the smaller team LOL
 
Let's be candid - the 67's had some high picks in recent years who ultimately didn't become first line caliber players, which is why they ended up where they were this year. Hopefully this draft features top picks who play like top picks, and a couple of diamonds in the rough in the later rounds. We are due for some good luck...

I think we’ve managed to hit on quite a few diamonds in the rough. We can point to the first rounders at times and even the 2nd rounder but we do get a few deeper picks that end up contributing quite well. @sirius67fan favourite player is a strong example!
 
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Drafting the Shorter twins will be interesting. I am sure that having both will make it a little easier to sign. Looking at the USHL, the NCAA has their combine 17- 20 April. It is by invitation only, so it should be interesting to see how many of the kids we drafted attend.

Any idea if Ottawa is going to have a rookie camp this year

Would love to see the 2 shorter kids.

One thing about this team we are no longer the smaller team LOL

Both those kids need time. I think the D-Man seems more likely to be a real prospect but his brother looks like he will need a couple years. But, it may be a new direction that could pay dividends. Who knows? We’ll need at least two seasons to find out.

To me the interesting pick is Zielinaki. When you pick a 17 year old that scores 30 points in 40 games as a 16 year old in the USHL, that says something.
 
Both those kids need time. I think the D-Man seems more likely to be a real prospect but his brother looks like he will need a couple years. But, it may be a new direction that could pay dividends. Who knows? We’ll need at least two seasons to find out.

To me the interesting pick is Zielinaki. When you pick a 17 year old that scores 30 points in 40 games as a 16 year old in the USHL, that says something.
Agreed I can see the Shorters playing CCHL

The only players I see making the team are
Chitaroni
Johnson
Zielinski If he is not a starter on the team he will go back to USHL Again same thing as Vandenberg wgere do they see him playing and what are they going to offer to make them sign

Campbell and Hayes have an outside shot
 
Agreed I can see the Shorters playing CCHL

The only players I see making the team are
Chitaroni
Johnson
Zielinski If he is not a starter on the team he will go back to USHL Again same thing as Vandenberg wgere do they see him playing and what are they going to offer to make them sign

Campbell and Hayes have an outside shot
Could be a very competitive camp as a lot of our returning players have not shown much yet so I could see a few returnees get cut if some rookies shine.
 
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Looking further at roster spots for next year. DC has stated his preference in the past for carrying 13 forwards and 8 defensemen ( he likes 8 D for practice). As returnees looking at listed players at the end of the season we potentially have 8 D and 14 forwards returning. ( I've put Horner on D for now) Of those I think for D that White, Avila, Horner and Brady ( imo) are not guaranteed a spot. Esh/Jackson/Dietsch/Marelli are safe. At forward I think Barlas, Bowes, Souliere,Allain, Kingwell, Perrier,Yanni, Houben and Kelly are not safe. Foster/Dever/Amidovsky/Whitehead/Ekberg are in.
I expect Chitaroni to make the team. Wouldn't be surprised Johnson makes it from what I read. If Zielensky signs he'll be in. Then Campbell, Hayes and Bonomo ( 24 draft) have an outside chance. Add in our first round import which I predict will be a forward and that's a lot of bodies ( even before any ushl/ ncaa commit signings). By my count thats 11 D and 19 forwards duking it out for 8 and 13 spots. Will be interesting!
 
My forecast for early season roster

Ekberg/Foster/Zielensky
Whitehead/Dever/import
Amidovsky/Chitaroni/Kelly
Yanni/Houben/Kingwell
Extra:Hayes ( he makes the team!)
Out:Barlas
Tier2: Perrier, Bowes,Souliere,Allain

Esh/Marelli
Johnson/Dietsch
Brady/Jackson
Extra: White, Bonomo
Out: Horner
Tier2: Campbell, Avila

Nelson
Bug
 
Looking further at roster spots for next year. DC has stated his preference in the past for carrying 13 forwards and 8 defensemen ( he likes 8 D for practice). As returnees looking at listed players at the end of the season we potentially have 8 D and 14 forwards returning. ( I've put Horner on D for now) Of those I think for D that White, Avila, Horner and Brady ( imo) are not guaranteed a spot. Esh/Jackson/Dietsch/Marelli are safe. At forward I think Barlas, Bowes, Souliere,Allain, Kingwell, Perrier,Yanni, Houben and Kelly are not safe. Foster/Dever/Amidovsky/Whitehead/Ekberg are in.
I expect Chitaroni to make the team. Wouldn't be surprised Johnson makes it from what I read. If Zielensky signs he'll be in. Then Campbell, Hayes and Bonomo ( 24 draft) have an outside chance. Add in our first round import which I predict will be a forward and that's a lot of bodies ( even before any ushl/ ncaa commit signings). By my count thats 11 D and 19 forwards duking it out for 8 and 13 spots. Will be interesting!

Pretty happy about the results of this draft, although as many have pointed out, time will tell. Also agree with what's been said about Johnson by other posters and believe he may be our "steal of the draft". Saw him ranked as high as the 4th best defenceman in the draft and believe he has a good shot at making the team out of camp.

If White did indeed postpone his NCAA commitment by one season, which I seem to recall, I think he probably has an inside track on one of the D slots.
 
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Pretty happy about the results of this draft, although as many have pointed out, time will tell. Also agree with what's been said about Johnson by other posters and believe he may be our "steal of the draft". Saw him ranked as high as the 4th best defenceman in the draft and believe he has a good shot at making the team out of camp.

If White did indeed postpone his NCAA commitment by one season, which I seem to recall, I think he probably has an inside track on one of the D slots.
Yes I agree I think he'll make it even though he might have limited icetime initially but one thing DC has a good record is developing d-men. What they need to decide is if he's better in tier 2 with more icetime or with the 67's with likely more limited icetime initially but with the benefit of increased practice time against higher caliber players and better coaching?
 
My forecast for early season roster

Ekberg/Foster/Zielensky
Whitehead/Dever/import
Amidovsky/Chitaroni/Kelly
Yanni/Houben/Kingwell
Extra:Hayes ( he makes the team!)
Out:Barlas
Tier2: Perrier, Bowes,Souliere,Allain

Esh/Marelli
Johnson/Dietsch
Brady/Jackson
Extra: White, Bonomo
Out: Horner
Tier2: Campbell, Avila

Nelson
Bug
I see where youare going but we can not have Foster and Dever playing center

If you do that then in your record, you have no 1st or second-line centers next year I don't think you can start Citaroni on 3rd line. I think you should start him on the 4th and let him get used to it then move him to 3rd st ethe deadlline

Same with the Euro import look at all the time it took Ekberg to get acclimatized

Ekberg Dever Foster
Kingswell Whitehead Zelensky
Amidovski Houben* Euro+
Yanni Chitaroni Kelly

*Until Cristmas then move Chitaroni to 3rd line if he is ready
+ Euro is going to depend on age and ability If this is his draft year and he is a high rated draft pick I do not think he can be 3rd line

Yani and Houben may fight to make the team. Houben has the size but he is gong to need to show some offensive skills to stay

On defence, I think Brady may have a fight on his hands. 8 points minus 36 is not going to cut it with some of the young guns coming in

If Shorter is drafted by the USHL I think unless the 67 are going to sign him to the team, he may opt to play in the USHL next year and leave the 67 as a possibility
Barlas and Horner are Uni bound or another league I just do not see a place for them in the OHL.
 
My forecast for early season roster

Ekberg/Foster/Zielensky
Whitehead/Dever/import
Amidovsky/Chitaroni/Kelly
Yanni/Houben/Kingwell
Extra:Hayes ( he makes the team!)
Out:Barlas
Tier2: Perrier, Bowes,Souliere,Allain

Esh/Marelli
Johnson/Dietsch
Brady/Jackson
Extra: White, Bonomo
Out: Horner
Tier2: Campbell, Avila

Nelson
Bug
no Vandenberg? Do you know something we dont :)?
 
no Vandenberg? Do you know something we dont :)?
In honesty I forgot him

If he comes, then Houben is a winger, and all bets are off.
Not sure what you can do. You could possibly move him to Whitehead's spot and slide Whitehead back to the wing

Houben is not a player you want if you are trying to compete he has no offensive skills. There is I think, going to be a fight for the center position and it will depend on what promises are made

Dever Whitehead, Vandenberg Chitaroni Houben: either Dever or Whitehead are going to move to the wing or get traded.
 
In honesty I forgot him

If he comes, then Houben is a winger, and all bets are off.
Not sure what you can do. You could possibly move him to Whitehead's spot and slide Whitehead back to the wing

Houben is not a player you want if you are trying to compete he has no offensive skills. There is I think, going to be a fight for the center position and it will depend on what promises are made

Dever Whitehead, Vandenberg Chitaroni Houben: either Dever or Whitehead are going to move to the wing or get traded.
What stands out to me is that each of these players brings a unique set of skills and strengths to the game.

Take Houben, for example—he’s a legitimate 6'5". If you have him, Dietsch, and Shorter on the penalty kill two years from now, good luck finding passing lanes with that kind of reach and stick length.

It will be fascinating to see who takes the next step in their development and continues to elevate their game.
 
If we sell, we don’t have high value graduating players. Probably Foster is the only player we have returning that may have a high value. But, he is an OA so he is likely worth somewhere around (2-3-5). That value won’t change. IF we can get that for him in the offseason, we should take it. Marrelli would be the highest value player but he is likely to be the only viable OA for 2026-27. I cannot see him traded. Dever is a flexible player that can play Centre Ice and RW. That is more valuable than Barlas as a centre/LW. I’d probably try to find a spot for Barlas elsewhere. But, I think it will be difficult to move foster in the offseason so I think that is likely a deadline deal.

The ‘07 group is too thick. But, in fairness, a lot of those players are only in the picture because we had a lot of injuries last eyar. Players like Bowes, Souliere, and Avila wouldn’t have played any games had we not had injuries. Houben is another player that really isn’t a contributor and looks to be only in the way. If the priority is to think future, then players like Perrier and Bonomo need time. They cannot get any time if the marginal ‘07s are clogging up the roster. I think we need to consider those guys in particular to be nothing other than periphery players.

We will pick an Import but it will likely be a 17 year old. If so, I think we’d be in a great situation if we end up with someone same/similar quality and maturity of Ekberg last year. So, it won’t be a player that can play 1st line or 1C. But, maybe it is a player that can play in the top 6 with Ekberg. We have enough defence now as well as future defence. We shouldn’t be looking at defence now for the Import. It needs to be a right shooting centre that can shift to RW if he isn’t a strong enough centre.

Considering all of that, I think some iteration of below is most likely. They are puzzle pieces that will move around so don’t focus too heavily on the where and what line. It is more about looking at the names still on the list vs the ones not on the list…

Foster(OA) - Dever(OA) - Kelly
Whitehead - Ekberg(IMP) - IMPORT
Amidovski - Vandenberg(NCAA) - Zielinski(NCAA)
Kingwell - Chitaroni(16) - Yanni
Hayes(16) - Perrier

Jackson - Eshkawkogan
White(NCAA) - Marrelli
Dietsch - Brady
Bonomo/Avila - Johnson(16)

I arranged the lines more so we can see what graduates and you essentially push the lines up one slot. So, Amidovski-Vandenberg-Zielinski as a line full of high quality 17 year olds is interesting. That line could play together for three seasons.

Someone is going to have to shift to Centre. Whitehead is a possibility since he is a natural centre that was unable at his maturity level to nail it down. Ekberg could shift there as well.

Eshkawkogan and Jackson seem like a good pairing. White should be fighting to get into the top 6. He’s a lefty though so I cannot see him unseating the three guys ahead of him. Someone would have to switch to the right side. One option is Marrelli shifting to the right side so White plays as his D-Partner with Johnson occupying the #7 hole. If Bonomo makes the team, he’s will be strictly a stay at home third pairing guy. Jackson, White, and Dietsch are all 18 year olds. They’ll return the following season. So, I am not at all certain Bonomo will get a shot this season. Avila seems maybe a little more likely as a replacement for Brady next year. Also, we need to consider that Campbell would be coming in on the left side next year making an even bigger log jam for Bonomo.

I could see them go out and fill that last OA slot with a capable OA goalie. Not a goalie that needs or should be a starter but someone capable enough to provide some stability. Nelson needs to take over the net as the primary but that doesn’t mean he should be starting 50 games. Maybe something like a 40-28 split.

Notice all the current signed forwards off the roster. I think the question we need to ask is whether any of the ones off the lineup are capable of unseating players on the list. You could argue that Houben could unseat Perrier. Sure, but Houben is an 18 year old and Perrier is a 17 year old. Why keep Houben as an 18 year old 5th line player? Same question for a player like Yanni but someone gets the nod and I think it will be him. Of the forwards on my list, only Foster, Dever, and Kelly don’t return. We will have more young players inserted next year so it makes it tough for those marginal ‘07s to gain a role.

If nothing else, I think this shows all the difficult choices. It also highlights the uncertainty at centre and that uncertainty reverberates throughout the rest of the roster which creates even more uncertainty. I think the Import slot will tell more of a tail, as will whether Zielenski and Vandenberg sign.
 
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I see where youare going but we can not have Foster and Dever playing center

If you do that then in your record, you have no 1st or second-line centers next year I don't think you can start Citaroni on 3rd line. I think you should start him on the 4th and let him get used to it then move him to 3rd st ethe deadlline

Same with the Euro import look at all the time it took Ekberg to get acclimatized

Ekberg Dever Foster
Kingswell Whitehead Zelensky
Amidovski Houben* Euro+
Yanni Chitaroni Kelly

*Until Cristmas then move Chitaroni to 3rd line if he is ready
+ Euro is going to depend on age and ability If this is his draft year and he is a high rated draft pick I do not think he can be 3rd line

Yani and Houben may fight to make the team. Houben has the size but he is gong to need to show some offensive skills to stay

On defence, I think Brady may have a fight on his hands. 8 points minus 36 is not going to cut it with some of the young guns coming in

If Shorter is drafted by the USHL I think unless the 67 are going to sign him to the team, he may opt to play in the USHL next year and leave the 67 as a possibility
Barlas and Horner are Uni bound or another league I just do not see a place for them in the OHL.
Look Beast I agree with you it's not ideal having Foster/Dever as your top 2 centers as OA's but what are the options at least to start the year? I'd much prefer Foster on the wing but who fills the middle? Maybe Ekberg is an option? Do we get an import center that can play top 6 ( unlikely if as we should we get a 17y.o.....not a lot of Rossi's out there). Do we have a surprise signing like Mckinney? But for now I think it is what it is🤷‍♂️
 
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And, just to be clear. The Houben situation is lining up to be the same conversation we had with Korbler. Guys trying to justify keeping a marginal player on the roster for reasons other than their ability to generate production.

Houben will be an 18 year old next year that comes in with a total of 4 points over 53 games. The ONLY reason anyone is considering him on this roster is because of his size. He doesn’t play big. He doesn’t have any scoring touch around the net. He isn’t mean. He doesn’t play particularly well in the defensive zone. There is nothing in his game that shows he has any real quality attributes other than height and weight. I think some are trying to find a spot for him or force the square peg into the round hole because they see the size and WANT it to work out.

Yanni, for example, had much less opportunity last year than Houben. He scored over double what Houben scored, he is more aggressive, he has a meaner streak, he is harder to play against, and it shows in his Penalty Minutes. Kingwell compiled more points than Houben in 1/5 the number of games played.

Don’t get caught up in size too much. The drive needs to be there to accompany it, otherwise it is just a big kid skating around taking up space. IMO, Houben hasn’t shown enough to warrant giving him a spot. If he were to come up next year in training camp and the exhibition games with a mean streak and plays with much more force, then I think you give him another look as an 18 year old. But, if we see the same as we saw this past season, he shouldn’t be afforded a further opportunity. Let a younger guy like Perrier have his 17 year old season opportunity.
 
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