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Ottawa 67s 2024-25 Season Thread, Part III

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beastintheeast said:
My point was that Boyd talks up players, and then they do not meet the hype.

OMG67 stating that he is injured answers the questions now it will be up to White if he wants to come back here or go to NCAA camp.
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It astounds me how many times you post crap that you have no idea on. Maybe get some info before you post.
 
OMG67 said:
Let’s look at Boyd…

Drafting:
The ‘07 group is very deep. We have twelve signed players with eleven of them playing games (White is the 12th but injury has kept him off the ice so far). Of those twelve, five are relatively important players - Whitehead, Ekberg, Dietsch, Nelson, and Jackson. Kingwell, Yanni, and Houben will likely be regulars next year. We aren’t sure about Conway, White, Avila, and Bowes. What we do know is we have a lot of mid sized LW ‘07s so there isn’t room for all of them! But, for a team to have twelve in one age group that mostly look half decent, it is pretty good, if not anything special.
The ‘06 group is the leadership group next year. That group is thinner than thin. Four players - Korbler, Brady, Kelly, and Marrelli. Horrid draft. We lacked centres and Boyd passed on Beaudoin (a big Ottawa area centre rated very high) for a converted forward D-Man (Mews). Shocking really. That pick changed the trajectory of this team dramatically and it wasn’t’ for the better. That pick truly put a stamp on how this team selects players. If you want to boil down all the problems at the draft table lately, you can point at that one single pick and understand where the issue lies.

No one can truly criticize me for revisionist history either. I was following that draft pick by pick because there were a few centres available that may slide to Ottawa. Clearly Misa wasn’t going to drop to Ottawa and we were pretty certain Villeneuve wouldn’t drop to Ottawa but there was a good chance Van Volsen and Beaudoin would be available to Ottawa at #7. Ottawa tends to lean local when possible so if not Villeneuve, you’d think they’d go with Beaudoin. We had ZERO centres returning that season so we needed to land on a centre. Nope. D-Man + D-Man with the two 1st round picks.

Four key players over two seasons decide that the 67’s organization isn’t where they want to play. This is an organization that provides the players with EVERYTHING off ice. Yet, four key players (Rohrer, Beck, Gardiner, and Mews) decide, “Nah. I’m out!” How is that possible? Is it an anomaly? This is something that truly needs attention by senior leadership in OSEG.

Trades:
This is another area we have discussed at length. Making a half hearted run two years in a row (2022-23 and 2023-24) after getting out managed in 2019 by Burnett isn’t acceptable at this point. This team should have two Championships (2019 and 2023). Letting Burnett pilfer Owen Sound for Suzuki and Durzi, basically at the 12th hour of the deadline for peanuts and not swooping in with a better offer is inexcusable. Tolnai plus a 2nd, 3rd, and 4th would have gotten that deal done with zero issues. That deal wins Ottawa a Championship in 2019 hands down.
Then in 2023, he held on to Mews and didn’t use him for Shane Wright. If you are going to dump 18 draft picks into Morrison and Mintyukov, what the hell are you doing not moving Mews or Marrelli for Shane Wright? Out in the 2nd round to the eventual Champions and then the following year, with zero centres ont he roster, you acquire two at the deadline but stop short of getting that last piece AGAIN for the 3rd time. Out in round 2 again. Keep in mind, had Boyd done what he needed to do in 2022-23 by trading Mews for Wright, we wouldn’t have been in position to make a run in 2023-24 which means we wouldn’t hav likely retooled a bit. With what the Petes managed to get for their players, I can only imagine what Ottawa would have gotten Stonehouse, and Mayich as 19 year olds at that deadline.
That brings us to this year. I know a lot has been said about Pinelli wanting to stay etc. but IMO, this was about communication. It is incumbent on the GM to communicate the plan with a player like Pinelli. That allows the player to come to grips with the fact that the team is selling and there is zero sense for him to stay under any circumstances. There should never have even been a situation where Pinelli chooses to stay in Ottawa. Ever. Then it comes down to Boyd gauging the market and communicating that market to Pinelli. If Kitchener was never really interested then so be it. If Griffin wouldn’t waive to come to Ottawa then so be it but these details needed to be communicated a week before the deadline. I’m fine with allowing the player to pick the destination but it has to be the destination that is available. Oshawa #1 of the available? Fine. Griffin won’t waive? Fine. Next is Barrie or Brantford. Pick one. Both were apparently available. This boils down to communication. The GM needs to paint the picture to the point the player feels they have no real choice. In other words, if you don’t go, you will be surrounded by nothing and will be at best a 50-50 shot of even making the playoffs. Communicate it and be blunt about it.
On top of that, I am reasonably certain that the cuts would have been deeper had the Pinelli deal gone through. I think they felt they didn’t have a choice with Mews but when Pinelli wasn’t moved, they shifted focus on at least trying to make the playoffs. They kept all of Foster, Mayich, and Dever. Another bad decision. AND, to top it all off, let’s assume I am wrong about by assumptions of the deadline. That means it is even worse! We have a GM that couldn’t read the landscape in front of his own eyes and approached it as if he had options.

So, that is all the negatives surrounding Boyd that I can come up with. There are positives as well but this comes down to what the OSEG instructions are. Is Boyd somewhat handcuffed? Does he have shackles on his ankles that prevent him from doing what we feel is the better course of action? Possible. I don’t know. This is why I cannot say for certain that Boyd needs to go. However, if he is shackled and he knows he is being shackled, why would he stay? If he left Ottawa, he’d get snapped up somewhere else for sure. This is why I lean towards him being the one that makes the decisions with relative autonomy.
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I agree with everything you have stated, but I have one question.

Would it be a good idea to bring back both of the Euros? With where we are picking, I would think tht trading one would make sense so that we can draft a young prospect for the building team.

The other question to this team is how many of the OA are going to come back and how many players will ask to leave.

As I have said, this is a time when the OSEG brass need to look at what is happening and make decisions about everyone involved with the on-ice product.

My other worry is that no one in the young 2007 crowd has shown a flair for scoring other than maybe Ekberg. That is going to be a challenge going into next year.
 
beastintheeast said:
I agree with everything you have stated, but I have one question.

Would it be a good idea to bring back both of the Euros? With where we are picking, I would think tht trading one would make sense so that we can draft a young prospect for the building team.

The other question to this team is how many of the OA are going to come back and how many players will ask to leave.

As I have said, this is a time when the OSEG brass need to look at what is happening and make decisions about everyone involved with the on-ice product.

My other worry is that no one in the young 2007 crowd has shown a flair for scoring other than maybe Ekberg. That is going to be a challenge going into next year.
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Korbler taking up an Important slot is useless.
 
OMG67 said:
Korbler taking up an Important slot is useless.
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Agreed I only asked because you listed him as part of the age group to build on. It through me for a loop knowing how much you love him.

I think Korbler is safe as long as DC is here he is DC's boy it seems
 
beastintheeast said:
Agreed I only asked because you listed him as part of the age group to build on. It through me for a loop knowing how much you love him.

I think Korbler is safe as long as DC is here he is DC's boy it seems
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You simply cannot keep Korbler. Even if they had to make two picks with Ekberg leaving, they cannot keep him.
 
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I guess I have no complaints but these lines are something.
 
NB has three games in hand and we are tied in the standings.

There’s still lots of hockey left but if the team is to make the playoffs, tomorrow is close to a must win.
 
Poster man said:
Word on the street is No TV board cast for tomorrow’s game? Any truth..
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I just checked CHLTV and it is listed as an upcoming game.

They may run a radio feed and the in house video if there is no Rogers crew. I remember a game like that maybe last year? It was still fine.
 
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BarberPole9 said:
NB has three games in hand and we are tied in the standings.

There’s still lots of hockey left but if the team is to make the playoffs, tomorrow is close to a must win.
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It is too early to make a bold prediction but I think NB is in a better position for sure. They are winning right now vs some better teams. Ottawa is struggling heavily. But, when you have teams near the bottom of the standings, there is no consistency to work with so anything can still happen.

The one prediction at the deadline was that NB and Ottawa would battle it out for 8th (or 9th depending on your goal). The one thing that has happened is the Petes have strung together a decent stretch and have worked their way back into the mix for 8th. Still a long shot for them but I didn’t think we’d even be talking about it.
 
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I didn't see why Dietsch scrapped but it was nice to see someone who would even if it seemed a bit contrived. The elder Amidovski is quite a bit better than our younger, but ours will get better. Avila played well today, likely better than Horner would have on defence. NB pulled it out at the end despite our best efforts and MacK is rounding inot form just when we don't need him to. Go NB! We need to get that lottery pick.
 
mianjo said:

67’s’ Collin MacKenzie named OHL Goaltender of the Week​


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67's' Collin MacKenzie named OHL Goaltender of the Week - Ontario Hockey League

Collin MacKenzie of the Ottawa 67's is the OHL Goaltender of the Week.
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Glad to see him have a bit of a late season rally - this may help him land a spot on a uSports team this coming Fall. People sell uSports hockey short - it is very good hockey, and it is not uncommon at all to see goalies with major junior experience have to fight it out for playing time...
 
Larionov said:
Glad to see him have a bit of a late season rally - this may help him land a spot on a uSports team this coming Fall. People sell uSports hockey short - it is very good hockey, and it is not uncommon at all to see goalies with major junior experience have to fight it out for playing time...
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If he can regain his previous level of play, there is no reason he cannot sign an NCAA deal. He is good enough for it. I think rotating the four OAs and limiting his time in net in the first half really affected him negatively. He clearly was not as strong as he had been in the past. Now we are seeing him out there at least 2 out of every 3 games and this week he played all four games Wednesday through Monday. I think that is a positive factor for him moving forward.
 
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