Ottawa 67's 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 2)

[OMG67]

Ok that answers my question. As i can't see the game looking at shot count we appear to have carried the play. Michelone had an off night then?

I wouldn’t say Ottawa carried the play. I would say Ottaw ahad more puck possession but the Fronts had at least double the quality scoring chances.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

Ok that answers my question. As i can't see the game looking at shot count we appear to have carried the play. Michelone had an off night then?

I think Michelone has had 7 above average for him nights and this was more what Ottawa should be expecting out of him.

I wouldn’t say Ottawa carried the play. I would say Ottaw ahad more puck possession but the Fronts had at least double the quality scoring chances.

Ottawa had 4 PP to Kingston;s 0 which helps with shots on net totals.

 

[Logosarejusttargets]

67’s have a .640 win% if we delete games against Kingston. Kingston has a .432 win% if we delete their games against Ottawa.

Every year there seems to be some sort of odd mismatch Somewhere in the league. This year it is Ott vs KGN. It is odd how that happens. It is not like Kingston is a great team. They get regularly pumped by average teams.

Ottawa has 11 games this year where they lost by 3 or more goals. Five of those are to Kingston and three by Peterborough. How does Ottawa lose to the bad teams that badly and yet beat most of the good teams? Such a strange season.

I guess it's a nuisance not being able to "delete" games eh?

 

[ecraigs]

I wouldn’t say Ottawa carried the play. I would say Ottaw ahad more puck possession but the Fronts had at least double the quality scoring chances.

Ottawa's defence was dreadful. Two unobstructed breakaways, another near breakaway, resulting in two goals. Against Kitchener, same thing. As a unit, they are too predictable. In general, despite the shot count, Ottawa's performance last night was terrible. Where I sit, most fans stay regardless the score. Last night, about a dozen left after the 5:00 mark. That is extremely rare.

Fans were booing Schmidt because he was wasting time? That's what he should be doing. Ottawa has no answer for that.

Overall, a team that looked disinterested. I saw defencemen coming off looking defeated... in the first period. Score to tie the game and give up an uncontested 2 on 0 in front of our own net 20 seconds later.

To cap it off, what did I get this morning? The season ticket renewal offer. I know, I know, I'm a sucker, but I am a dedicated long term sucker.

 

[PuckStop75]

Ottawa's defence was dreadful. Two unobstructed breakaways, another near breakaway, resulting in two goals. Against Kitchener, same thing. As a unit, they are too predictable. In general, despite the shot count, Ottawa's performance last night was terrible. Where I sit, most fans stay regardless the score. Last night, about a dozen left after the 5:00 mark. That is extremely rare.

Fans were booing Schmidt because he was wasting time? That's what he should be doing. Ottawa has no answer for that.

Overall, a team that looked disinterested. I saw defencemen coming off looking defeated... in the first period. Score to tie the game and give up an uncontested 2 on 0 in front of our own net 20 seconds later.

To cap it off, what did I get this morning? The season ticket renewal offer. I know, I know, I'm a sucker, but I am a dedicated long term sucker.

very fair assessment of last nights game, some poorly timed pinching at the blueline led to a number of odd man rushes, and there is zero physicality. If they don't get to the puck first at least blow up the player so they can't join the play. Michelone was not sharp last night either which didn't help the situation.

Ottawa has a few things to work on, the system of play has a few glitches in it. The 2nd & 3rd line combinations are still not working at the moment, too many guys standing around watching instead of engaging in the play.

 

[OMG67]

I guess it's a nuisance not being able to "delete" games eh?

LOL. Yes.

It is only meant to be for perspective.

 

[OMG67]

very fair assessment of last nights game, some poorly timed pinching at the blueline led to a number of odd man rushes, and there is zero physicality. If they don't get to the puck first at least blow up the player so they can't join the play. Michelone was not sharp last night either which didn't help the situation.

Ottawa has a few things to work on, the system of play has a few glitches in it. The 2nd & 3rd line combinations are still not working at the moment, too many guys standing around watching instead of engaging in the play.

Disinterested. I think that is the rue issue last night. It looked like Pinelli was the only player that wanted to play. The rest didn’t give a rats ass about that game. They went through the motions. This team has a tendency of playing down to their opponents. Six losses to Kingston and three to Peterborough. Additional losses to Flint, Niagara, and Sarnia. That is 12 loses out of 24 (including OT and SO) to teams below .500. It is crazy how badly they have squandered opportunities for the easier points yet they play the top teams really well. Very odd.

 

[OMG67]

Since December 1, Stonehouse has had five goals and 16 points. He’s a -12 over that stretch. He has not been good at all. He isn’t drawing penalties. He isn’t contributing in any meaningful way. Gardiner hasn’t really been much better stats wise.

Maillet hasn’t done anything since his arrival. Lawrence was more effective in a 3rd centre role and that is saying something!

For the 67’s to actually do some damage, they need a more consistent result from those three players in particular. We can’t have those guys playing at or below replacement level. They need to be the leaders on the team, especially if two of them are centres.

If those three guys don’t get their collective shit together, it will be a meaningless season.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

Eh, every team has bad nights. The sky isn't falling. If this trend continues tomorrow night and going forward, perhaps its cause to worry.

People are making much too big a deal out of one loss/poor effort (really, they're only noticeably poor effort since the deadline). Bad losses happen to every team.

 

[OMG67]

Eh, every team has bad nights. The sky isn't falling. If this trend continues tomorrow night and going forward, perhaps its cause to worry.

People are making much too big a deal out of one loss/poor effort (really, they're only noticeably poor effort since the deadline). Bad losses happen to every team.

I think it has more to do with the trend specifically against Kingston.

As well, the lack of performance over the last 2-3 months from Stonehouse and Gardiner plus Maillet since the deadline.

 

[PuckStop75]

Since December 1, Stonehouse has had five goals and 16 points. He’s a -12 over that stretch. He has not been good at all. He isn’t drawing penalties. He isn’t contributing in any meaningful way. Gardiner hasn’t really been much better stats wise.

Maillet hasn’t done anything since his arrival. Lawrence was more effective in a 3rd centre role and that is saying something!

For the 67’s to actually do some damage, they need a more consistent result from those three players in particular. We can’t have those guys playing at or below replacement level. They need to be the leaders on the team, especially if two of them are centres.

If those three guys don’t get their collective shit together, it will be a meaningless season.

I've always believed that line combinations start off as pairing and then the team needs to find a 3rd wheel to compliment the play of the two. With Pinelli and Kressler they seem to have found that in Korbler.

Stonehouse is a tough player to pair as he shoots left but works best off his wrong wing offensively, that creates a number of issues for him in the other zones, so whatever line he is on he is the complimentary player IMO.

Maillet needs a skilled RW to work with, we can suggest they should have got that player at the deadline but they didn't so the next best thing is Gardiner IMO. I don't care which one plays centre or the wing but I will be surprised if it can be made to work with any of the others. Allow them a few more luxuries offensively and add Barlas as the complimentary player may work stylistically as Barlas plays that gritty and is defensively responsible.

Foster and Gerrior seem to be the logical match of the remaining players, with Stonehouse added on the RW side to complete the top 9.

That leaves Whitehead, Dever, Kelly and Horner to form a 4th line, As a group the 190+ pounders need to play more physical including Stonehouse.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

I think it has more to do with the trend specifically against Kingston.

As well, the lack of performance over the last 2-3 months from Stonehouse and Gardiner plus Maillet since the deadline.

Well the performance vs. Kingston this year is odd and I don't have an explanation for it other than its a unfavourable matchup for the 67s.

But, I'm a glass half full kind of guy (most times) and weigh the Kingston games vs. the post-deadline Kitchener games (1-1, but outplayed them both times), the Saginaw game on the back end of a 3-in-3 road trip in which we carried a lead into the final minutes, and the other games since the deadline in which we outplayed teams and carried leads into the final minutes/seconds.

Yes, the team has had difficulty holding leads and has given away points to teams they're chasing in the standings. The 67s also have a tendency to "play down" to the opposition, like the recent Niagara and Sarnia games. The 67s aren't what I would consider to be a great team. They're a good team, maybe a very good team with MacKenzie and can just as easily do some damage in the playoffs (which I consider to be an eastern conference final berth) as get knocked out in the first round by, say, Oshawa. We'll have to wait and see.

Maillet hasn't been great. I do think he can play at the pace that Cameron wants to see though, unlike Lawrence. All things considered I'd do that trade again. Better yet, perhaps Boyd should have targeted Peer (maybe he did). Stonehouse has shown some signs of finding his game, but he's been inconsistent. One step forward, two steps back. One good game, two bad ones. Gardiner has looked a little lost recently admittedly, most problematic on the defensive side.

On the plus side, the team is much better at clearing the zone and crisply executing breakouts. That was a pet peeve of mine last year. The maturation of Marrelli and Mews has helped in that regard. The 67s are a really good possession team in fact. Scoring ability isn't what I would consider to be a plus for this team and that has hurt them recently.

 

[PuckStop75]

I think it has more to do with the trend specifically against Kingston.

As well, the lack of performance over the last 2-3 months from Stonehouse and Gardiner plus Maillet since the deadline.

I think it is fair to say the team hasn't been passing the eye test since the trade deadline but many of us are being patient in believing that it will get sorted out before the playoffs start. I haven't liked the line combinations particularly around Maillett who they show on the 2nd line but keep putting with a 4th line RW expecting a miracle.

 

[PuckStop75]

Well the performance vs. Kingston this year is odd and I don't have an explanation for it other than its a unfavourable matchup for the 67s.

But, I'm a glass half full kind of guy (most times) and weigh the Kingston games vs. the post-deadline Kitchener games (1-1, but outplayed them both times), the Saginaw game on the back end of a 3-in-3 road trip in which we carried a lead into the final minutes, and the other games since the deadline in which we outplayed teams and carried leads into the final minutes/seconds.

Yes, the team has had difficulty holding leads and has given away points to teams they're chasing in the standings. The 67s also have a tendency to "play down" to the opposition, like the recent Niagara and Sarnia games. The 67s aren't what I would consider to be a great team. They're a good team, maybe a very good team with MacKenzie and can just as easily do some damage in the playoffs (which I consider to be an eastern conference final berth) as get knocked out in the first round by, say, Oshawa. We'll have to wait and see.

Maillet hasn't been great. I do think he can play at the pace that Cameron wants to see though, unlike Lawrence. All things considered I'd do that trade again. Better yet, perhaps Boyd should have targeted Peer (maybe he did). Stonehouse has shown some signs of finding his game, but he's been inconsistent. One step forward, two steps back. One good game, two bad ones. Gardiner has looked a little lost recently admittedly, most problematic on the defensive side.

On the plus side, the team is much better at clearing the zone and crisply executing breakouts. That was a pet peeve of mine last year. The maturation of Marrelli and Mews has helped in that regard. The 67s are a really good possession team in fact. Scoring ability isn't what I would consider to be a plus for this team and that has hurt them recently.

Since the deadline, Gardiner has been relegated to the 3rd line. The woes defensively are largely a product of trying to do too much on his own. Last night being a prime example of trying to beat a player behind the net when he had options on both sides. FWIW, one of the D had to cover Gardiner's position in front of the net when they were late getting back. Already commented on Maillett's situation and think pairing the 2 needs to be considered. Two lines scoring is better than 1; if it works out.

 

[44 95 plus tax]

I have to say, might as well put Mews either up on the wing or on the bench. He can't defend.

Michelone played like a backup last night.

They all looked like they were waiting for their Valentine dates after the game.

 

[OMG67]

I have to say, might as well put Mews either up on the wing or on the bench. He can't defend.

Michelone played like a backup last night.

They all looked like they were waiting for their Valentine dates after the game.

I’m on your team here. If we need a scoring RW, Mews is the best suited! This experiment of him playing defence is a struggle. His draft status when this season is over will be the best indicator. He’s already slipped quite a bit in the mid-season rankings. I expect he will slip more for the final rankings.

 

[mianjo]

NB miss a pen shot

 

[mianjo]

67's down 1-0

2-0 after 1

SHOTS ON GOAL

Teams	1st	Total
OTT	11	11
NB	12	12

 

[mianjo]

3-0

 

[mianjo]

3-2

GOAL
#12 Braeden Kressler (23) scores. Assists: #20 Luca Pinelli, #11 Henry Mews POWER PLAY
3rd 0:15


3-3
GOAL #23 Will Gerrior (20) scores. 3rd 11:47

 

[mianjo]

67's lose 3-2

 

[AGranderson]

Consistently only seeing five forwards 12,18,20,23,29 & Two D 6,19 show up to play every game & every shift need more out of 9,17,25,27 & 11,22 on the back end. Not easy digging your way out of a 3-0 hole fell just short tonight liked the 3rd period effort from the consistent 7 I mentioned

 

[beastintheeast]

A couple of questions.

1. Why is Smythe playing?

2. If we are expecting the Bulls to fold, I think we may be in trouble.

3. why are we taking so many stupid penalties?

4. What is the status of MacK. No offence to Mich. He is doing his best, but it would be nice to have a backup who can play. Right now, we are living him like Kingston has Vaccari.

I think the only question left in the conference is who is going to get home ice advantage Oshawa or Ottawa

 

[NordiquesForeva]

Consistently only seeing five forwards 12,18,20,23,29 & Two D 6,19 show up to play every game & every shift need more out of 9,17,25,27 & 11,22 on the back end. Not easy digging your way out of a 3-0 hole fell just short tonight liked the 3rd period effort from the consistent 7 I mentioned

I'd add Marrelli as a guy that comes to play every night too, but other than that I agree. Tough loss but I liked the fight and push-back in the latter half of the 2nd period and into the 3rd.

 

[OMG67]

Ottawa came out on the losing end tonight but that was a super entertaining game to watch. Real playoff style game.

Agree with a lot of what has been said. I am starting to get more annoyed with Boyd leaving us short that one additional player again especially with an open Import slot sitting there. That one player could be making all the difference.