Proposal: OTT sends Brady Tkachuk, Shane Pinto to NYI for Matthew Barzal, Noah Dobson

[Bjornar Moxnes]

That's fine but the value....I mean, Shane Pinto? He's worth, what, the same as every other 20 goal scorer that's overpaid in the NHL?

Dobson may be one-way but he's top 10 in D-scoring the past three years....I'm sure a bunch of teams would love that ability if all they have to give up is a replaceable possible 20 goal forward.

In what way is Pinto even remotely overpaid?

Side note : rather keep Greig over Pinto, right? If it came down to it

Not even remotely. RHS C that's super smart over LHS C that's fast and a pest but not particularly high in IQ any day.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Every fan thinks they can steal Brady. Guy is a unicorn and may be as good as his brother. The intangibles are massive on him. You have to overpay, this isn't close. The only reason for Ottawa to trade him is he has only three years left on his deal and could easily bolt to Florida. Ottawa is likely to roll the dice on more years at least to see how good they are in. They could trade Brady with two years on contract and still fetch a ransom.

The value is fair, but the Sens add more of what they already have and lose of what they won't be able to adequately replace.

The value isn't obvious with Tkachuk boys. Players like that are more than their stats.

 

[doublechili]

As an Isles fan the thing that would concern me most about the proposed trade is that you're giving up 2 guys who are (or can be) under your control for years, and the biggest asset coming back could be gone after 3 years (2 years, really, if he forces a trade). Love the player, but no thanks. Not worth the gamble, or the agita.

[saw the post above after posting - not really sure a team can get a ransom for him in a year or two if everyone knows he wants to be in FLA]

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

In what way is Pinto even remotely overpaid?

True. There's just as many players above his AAV that have the same production as there are players below his AAV with the same production. He's pretty much in the middle of the middle.

 

[HuGort]

Off season trade,

Who wins this ?

Ottawa be crazy to do that. They could get the moon for Tkachuk.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

Ottawa be crazy to do that. They could get the moon for Tkachuk.

Not sure about that, his NMC kicks in July 1 I think.

 

[Boud]

Not sure about that, his NMC kicks in July 1 I think.

I believe we are before July 1st.

 

[Barsky]

I'm higher on Dobson than most and lower on Tkachuk on most and this is still NYI AINEC. Do the sens really want two injury prone players taking up 17million cap space?

Since when is Brady injury prone? Pinto and Norris for sure, but not Brady, not remotely

 

[Barsky]

Until they realize they get stuck in Canada.

Based on their birth certificates Idk they would hate that as much as you seem to think

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Since when is Brady injury prone? Pinto and Norris for sure, but not Brady, not remotely

Barzal is injury prone...

 

[Barsky]

Barzal is injury prone...

Ah, gotcha, agreed, but compared to Norris, who's spot he'd take ideally, he's rock solid. In that case it's Dobson who isn't really injury prone

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Until they realize they get stuck in Canada.

...as Canadians, they probably don't mind...ever been??...or just sour for sour's sake??...

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

I believe we are before July 1st.

We are but does the NMC carry to the next team? If Yes, that's a negative for the buyer, not a positive, that's what I was getting at.