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Confirmed with Link: [OTT/BUT] Josh Norris & JBD traded for Dylan Cozens, Dennis Gilbert & 2026 2nd

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frightenedinmatenum2 said:
It is interesting to hear how much interest there was in Norris league-wide. Apparently, San Jose, Vancouver, and Nashville were interested.

My prediction was wrong, I thought he would be very difficult to move for anything but iffy contracts.

Vancouver didn't have the right pieces. To think, we were that close to getting Soucy.
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Yeah it's pretty shocking to me there was so much interest in Norris.

The very fact that Staios was looking to move Norris in the middle of a tight playoff race should have scared teams away.

Especially considering this is a player that has major injury concerns going forward. Sens have insider info about the state of his shoulder and obviously did not feel confident he'll justify his contract going forward.
 
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Hale The Villain said:
Yeah it's pretty shocking to me there was so much interest in Norris.

The very fact that Staios was looking to move Norris in the middle of a tight playoff race should have scared teams away.

Especially considering this is a player that has major injury concerns going forward. Sens have insider info about the state of his shoulder and obviously did not feel confident he'll justify his contract going forward.
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Yeah also @Burrowsaurus - you told me I was wrong after the trade and I doubled down - but a lot of info has since come out and clearly Norris had value well beyond what I thought he had.
 
bicboi64 said:
Really curious as to what other teams were offering for Norris.
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Seravalli went in on the Sabres here:



He quotes a GM that said “Can’t trade for a guy with a mashed potato for a shoulder”. His take seems to be that Norris did not have much value.

I don’t really think it’s as crazy as he seems to though. Buffalo didn’t want a futures deal, they probably wanted a C, so I’m not sure how many teams could offer them what we did. Norris is also a lot of what Buffalo needs, sometimes you have to take risks.
 
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Icelevel said:
Well I saw something and it’s bothered me for a while. I trust my gut. But definitely could be wrong.
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He's just half-Newfoundlander and his dad rubbed off on him a lot. honestly, I think that's what you're interpreting as overly casual.
 
PlayOn said:
Seravelli went in on the Sabres here:



He quotes a GM that said “Can’t trade for a guy with a mashed potato for a shoulder”. His take seems to be that Norris did not have much value.

I don’t really think it’s as crazy as he seems to though. Buffalo didn’t want a futures deal, they probably wanted a C, so I’m not sure how many teams could offer them what we did. Norris is also a lot of what Buffalo needs, sometimes you have to take risks.
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I agree with that take, I really don’t understand it from Buffalos POV

Unless what Seravalli said about “I don’t care how badly Cozens wanted out” meant Cozens told them he was done in Buffalo, then it makes a bit of sense from their end.
 
Hale The Villain said:
Great points here.

Also what made him so dangerous in his 35G season was his ability to consistently get good one-timers off, even if the pass wasn't perfect.

Doesn't seem to have the same kind of range after multiple shoulder surgeries.
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Yeah it's got to be exactly in his wheelhouse now and even then he doesn't get it released the same way. Had a god given talent for shooting but that's been taken away and without that he's a 5 million dollar guy not an 8. Hope he has a long career.
 
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BondraTime said:
I agree with that take, I really don’t understand it from Buffalos POV

Unless what Seravalli said about “I don’t care how badly Cozens wanted out” meant Cozens told them he was done in Buffalo, then it makes a bit of sense from their end.
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I’m sure Cozens asked for a trade. Seravalli mentioned a few weeks ago there were a lot of malcontents in Buffalo so I assume he was one given this comment.

His argument seems to be that they should have waited until summer but I don’t think that was gonna change anything. Practically every C available has trade protection and would block Buffalo.
 
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PlayOn said:
I’m sure Cozens asked for a trade. Seravalli mentioned a few weeks ago there were a lot of malcontents in Buffalo so I assume he was one given this comment.

His argument seems to be that they should have waited until summer but I don’t think that was gonna change anything. Practically every C available has trade protection and would block Buffalo.
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Friedman talked about this on the 32 thoughts deadline wrap up - said something to the effect of 'Buffalo looked at a lot of centers who had protection and told them no'.

Buffalo is similar to Ottawa in a lot of ways - free agents don't go there, players with trade protection won't waive for them, and they've spent years building a well-earned bad reputation. The Senators are digging their way out of that to some extent, but Buffalo are pretty much at rock bottom.

If you're dead-set on making a change and you don't want futures, Norris might be the best the Sabres could reasonably do.
 
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My biggest worry about the trade was whether it would disrupt the room. Cozens really seems to be fitting in well, the team still seems to be tight. I think we've averted the worst case scenario, and at this point, it's looking like how much of the upside will we get.

Cozens had a lot of potential coming into the league, if this is how he plays when he's motivated, that bodes extremely well. If Green can clean up his defensive game, even better.

So far so good. I was initially skeptical, but he looks like a good fit for the room, and on the ice. Still going to miss Norris, but that's part of the game.
 
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Postmedia has reported the organization had a deal scuttled with the Nashville Predators the night before the deadline and also had serious talks with the Vancouver Canucks, but they didn’t have the assets.

Garrioch says Vancouver didn’t have the assets for Norris. That is so strange to hear since they had Soucy, Hoglander and a 2nd.
 
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PlayOn said:
Postmedia has reported the organization had a deal scuttled with the Nashville Predators the night before the deadline and also had serious talks with the Vancouver Canucks, but they didn’t have the assets.

Garrioch says Vancouver didn’t have the assets for Norris. That is so strange to hear since they had Soucy, Hoglander and a 2nd.
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Sens are worse off for this playoff run, but better off every year past this one
 
Micklebot said:
My biggest worry about the trade was whether it would disrupt the room. Cozens really seems to be fitting in well, the team still seems to be tight. I think we've averted the worst case scenario, and at this point, it's looking like how much of the upside will we get.

Cozens had a lot of potential coming into the league, if this is how he plays when he's motivated, that bodes extremely well. If Green can clean up his defensive game, even better.

So far so good. I was initially skeptical, but he looks like a good fit for the room, and on the ice. Still going to miss Norris, but that's part of the game.
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Batherson and him became friends after the World Championship
As soon Bath heard he had been traded to Ottawa, he offered room and board at his place

Same with Stu and Zetterlund
 
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DJB said:
I think this is a terrible trade .

Cozens is Bambi on skates, and severely lacks hockey IQ. His contract only saves us close to 800k

Yes Norris is one hit away from retirement but who cares ? He was the better player and if he does get hurt you Robidas island him.

Not a a good trade
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He has not just done a 180 but a 720 so far

Completely different looking player than I’ve seen in Buffalo the past 2 years

I’m glad he’s making me eat my words right now
 
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LeProspector said:
I hope that Cozens continues to preform, but I also hope it doesn’t turn into one of those “Norris sucks because he was traded for Cozens” type of deals. Norris is fantastic and I would hate to see that
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Not sure there has been any Sens fans saying Norris sucks.

99% of Sabres fans are saying Cozens is a useless sack of shit.

There’s no worries about that regarding Norris
 
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LeProspector said:
I hope that Cozens continues to preform, but I also hope it doesn’t turn into one of those “Norris sucks because he was traded for Cozens” type of deals. Norris is fantastic and I would hate to see that
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Any Sens fan that ends up saying Norris sucks or whatnot is [insert negative adjective/noun]. Dude was a warrior and put his everything out here every night but management decided his play style wasn't the best fi for he team going forward.
 
BondraTime said:
Not sure there has been any Sens fans saying Norris sucks.

99% of Sabres fans are saying Cozens is a useless sack of shit.

There’s no worries about that regarding Norris
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I more mean that’ll be the sentiment around the league. Whether fair or not, if a player is involved in a bad trade, that player faces unjust criticism. Karlsson to SJ, and Duchene to OTT are just two that come to mind.
 
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Cozens was slumping pretty hard when he was traded unlike Norris who was playing fairly well.

That will obviously colour impressions as well.

It was reaching some pretty hyperbolic levels, I will admit.
 
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PlayOn said:
Postmedia has reported the organization had a deal scuttled with the Nashville Predators the night before the deadline and also had serious talks with the Vancouver Canucks, but they didn’t have the assets.

Garrioch says Vancouver didn’t have the assets for Norris. That is so strange to hear since they had Soucy, Hoglander and a 2nd.
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Soucy had a NTC. So it is possible that he blocked it, and I don't think Hoglander and the 2nd gets it done since Soucy would have been the headline piece.
 
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